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1906 Indian Head Cent: Grading Opinions Please!

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Here's a coin I bought recently. What grade would you assign to it? I have an opinion but to avoid influencing others, I'd like to get your input first. It's not slabbed, obviously.

Thanks!
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Looks nice but pics are too small to make proper assessment . Need Larger .
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Well with the pics shows I'd say at least XF-45. Probably AU. need larger pics please.
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Man your eyes are better than mine!
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Signs of old age my friend !
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Here are better pictures. I look forward to your thoughts. Thanks!
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EF-40+ ,lack of details in diamonds, beads around neck, bottom edge of Liberty band and hair curls .Don't get me wrong , It's a nice original no problem IHC .
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T-BOP: thank you. Help me to understand the diamonds please. I've seen them referred to in my ANA grading standards book, but I frankly can't find any diamonds even in the photos of MS coins.
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Villa Rose , on the obverse of an Indian cent there is a ribbon running through the Indians hair curls . There are 4 diamonds on that ribbon . Just one of the things we look at when we assess IHC's .
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EF-45.
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The diamonds as well as LIBERTY are two places that determine wear, they are the highest points on the obverse while the leaves and shield on reverse are indicators of wear there. Based on that it's a nice EF45. May have been washed with soap and water before but hasn't been chemically cleaned. It would be a good idea to submerse it in pure acetone for an hour. that may remove some of the black gunk inside the details and green in denticles.
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Thanks to everyone for the opinions and info (especially those diamonds).

This is my first step towards building a collection of IHCs. For budgetary reasons I'm starting with coins below MS in the 1900 - 1909 range. You don't find many of those in the online auctions, so I bought this coin sight unseen by mail order. The dealer said it was AU. Once I got my hands on it and started studying it, I felt like it was more of an EF than an AU. Can't say I'm surprised that it turns out to be a notch lower than the dealer claimed. That has happened to me before. Ah well, you have to start somewhere I suppose.
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EF-45
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