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Question On Grading..mint Surface.

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First thing is..mint surface, is that the luster? I got a 56 d wheat,that is as shiny as the day it was minted...if I were around to see it anyway..lol..Now, sincei found it in a roll..it could never grade above ms correct? Never uc.....proofs..if found in roll. Goes same?
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@ndn78, lots of good questions you are asking! I recommend doing a little searching for prior threads where these questions have been asked and answered. For example, here is a great thread describing the difference between uncirculated and proof strikes:

http://goccf.com/t/73968
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Thank you for that.. being new to the forum.. guess exploring could have answered my questions..lol.. and yes I well check other threads appreciate the advice.. thanks
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I see I got reported... tho I Am a, newbie..i did look for mint surface... but found nothing on this... just mint state... still unclear on mint surface
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I take "Mint surfaces" to mean a coin that shows original mint luster and has unaltered surfaces. For example, a Mint State (MS) coin that has not been cleaned/dipped and doesn't have toning or environmental damage.
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still unclear on mint surface


I guess that I'm a little unclear what you mean by the term "mint surface". Maybe you mean "mint luster"? If so, here is the definition from the CCF glossary:


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luster
In numismatics, the amount and strength of light reflected from a coin's surface or its original mint bloom. Luster is the result of light reflecting on the flow lines, whether visible or not.


Does that help a little?


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roll..it could never grade above ms correct?


I have found thousands of mint state coins in rolls. All mint state means is that the coin shows no wear. How it got from the mint into your hands is inconsequential.
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How it got from the mint into your hands is inconsequential.


I agree. When considering coin condition, nothing matters but .... the coin's condition.
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Yes it's a bit more clear now... and could mint state coin b called uncirculated still even tho it came from a bank roll but it's in mint state? And mint surface I actually read on another members post...guess it would have meant the original luster and finished in adulterated...? Thanks again everyone
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Mint state and uncirculated are synonymous. All they mean is there is no sign of wear.
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Until ya get 'em under 150x mag, then there is a noticeable loss of surface "fluff", the fine metal surfaces that are the source of luster. Handling, transportation, coin contact knocks off some. Plus handling, even with "clean" hands, the human body transmits oils/moisture/contaminants not seen to the eye, the scope picks it up nicely. Is why I always differ with the above. I have never considered ANY of my nicer CRH finds as MS. I even have trouble calling rolls purchased as BU/UNC but have toned/spotted due to a mint failure to cleanse properly as less than MS, no better than AU59. I have probably toosed very many BUs back in the pond for you guys to quibble over.(7096 in July matter of fact, including "BU" rolls that looked too crappy for me to keep)
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