A Running Thread Of Chafemasterj's Counterstamped Lincoln Cents. - Page 153

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Earle42 Bedrock of the Community United States 10051 Posts	Posted 09/10/2022 5:43 pm Have to wonder if Mr. Wille was the one who stamped both or not. Too bad it cannot tell us. Nice addition! How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halves https://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 09/10/2022 5:57 pm Those pesky masons. Report this Post to the Staff
smat45 Pillar of the Community United States 2348 Posts	Posted 09/10/2022 6:03 pm Those Wille Wascals : )~ smat Report this Post to the Staff
chafemasterj Pillar of the Community United States 6514 Posts	Posted 09/11/2022 08:10 am Quote: Have to wonder if Mr. Wille was the one who stamped both or not. I thought the same thing. Tried to do some research linking the two but there doesn't seem to be any sort of list of past members. At least not that I could find. Quote: Those pesky Masons. Agreed! Boy they liked to stamp U.S. small cents. Quote: Those Wille Wascals! Now that's funny smat. Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection: http://goccf.com/t/303507 Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 191130 Posts	Posted 09/12/2022 11:06 am Quote: Double counter stamped 1862 IHC. Masonic and Wm W. WILLE A fantastic example! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
chafemasterj Pillar of the Community United States 6514 Posts	Posted 09/13/2022 8:37 pm Baby Chick counter stamp. . . Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection: http://goccf.com/t/303507 Report this Post to the Staff
chafemasterj Pillar of the Community United States 6514 Posts	Posted 09/14/2022 06:50 am Alright. This one is totally up for debate as to what the meaning is. It appears to be a glowing heart stitched back together with flames coming out of the top. I have no idea on this one. Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection: http://goccf.com/t/303507 Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 191130 Posts	Posted 09/14/2022 10:15 am Quote: Baby Chick counter stamp. . . Excellent! Quote: Alright. This one is totally up for debate as to what the meaning is. It appears to be a glowing heart stitched back together with flames coming out of the top. I have no idea on this one. It looks familiar, like I have seen it as a tattoo, but I am not sure. I did some searching, but nothing conclusive. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
Earle42 Bedrock of the Community United States 10051 Posts	Posted 09/14/2022 10:34 am You asked! The explanation is complex b/c the symbol is. This is a Biblical symbol. The background as explained in the Bible - trying to be as brief as I can: When Adam and Eve sinned, mankind was thereafter doomed to be born with a sin nature (hence the symbol of the broken heart in the counterstamp instead of a whole heart). The punishment for everyone's sin - eternal separation from God (endless spiritual death in Hell) was paid for by Jesus (the only One with a sinless nature and not under the penalty) dying on the cross and resurrecting. The heart in the counterstamped is stitched together as a symbol of broken (sinful) heart made whole. The flame is a symbol of God's Holy Spirit presiding over the once-broken heart. Pentecost is mentioned in the Bible as the first time (enabled by the forgiven nature of a heart by Christ's death and resurrection) was sent to indwell any and all persons who would repent of sin and ask God for forgiveness when they understand the sacrifice Christ made for them. The Bible says since it was the first time the Holy Spirit could indwell/heal a heart, God made a miraculous sign of what appeared like a flame was above the heads of the disciples as a witness to observers. The rays of "glow" are a symbol of the joy a person can have with a heart forgiven, healed, and free from sin's eternal penalty in the Lake of Fire. How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halves https://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 191130 Posts	Posted 09/14/2022 11:27 am Ah! I wondered if I was getting close. Most of the images similar to this that I found had what appeared to be the Crown of Thorns in place of the stitching and a Latin Cross embedded in the flame above the heart. Images than had stitching typically showed the whole heart aflame, if there were flames at all. I am sure I would have found it if I kept digging deeper... I do not know if you guys know this, but there are A LOT of pictures on the internet! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
Earle42 Bedrock of the Community United States 10051 Posts	Posted 09/14/2022 1:14 pm Quote: Ah! I wondered if I was getting close. Most of the images similar to this that I found had what appeared to be the Crown of Thorns in place of the stitching and a Latin Cross embedded in the flame above the heart. Variations on a theme. The Crown of Thorns of course being a symbol of what was placed, as a mockery, on Jesus' head. Thus the presence of the crown directly includes Jesus in the symbol. The cross being coupled with the flame is again a direct link of symbolism to Jesus' death and the indwelling Holy Spirit as both being a part of the only way mankind can escape the eternity of hellfire the sin nature demands (standing in direct contrast to the manmade concept that good works will accomplish this). Quote: Images than had stitching typically showed the whole heart aflame, if there were flames at all. I think this is a direct reference, again emphasizing, in this case, the idea that the Holy Spirit has repaired and is "sealing" (the term used in the Bible) a person's salvation by indwelling the heart. While the cross has been said to be the most recognized symbols there is, the Bible says God made the promise after the resurrection to send the Holy Spirit to "seal" the work Christ accomplished. This is what the Bible's concept of the Holy Spirit's indwelling a saved (from sin's penalty) person is all about is about. How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halves https://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 Report this Post to the Staff
chafemasterj Pillar of the Community United States 6514 Posts	Posted 09/14/2022 4:27 pm Wow. Thank you for the education Earle42. I had no idea that there could be so much symbolism in such a small space. Also thank you JBuck. I had looked for a while and wound up in the same boat as you. Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection: http://goccf.com/t/303507 Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 191130 Posts	Posted 09/14/2022 5:31 pm Thank you for the addendum, Earle. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 100183 Posts	Posted 09/14/2022 7:47 pm naw, more simpler explanation - The heart represents 'love' the laces are an obvious reference to football (US Version) so, A love of football is what I read. The fire? - well this sort is pretty hot right now as it ramps up for the season.. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 09/14/2022 7:59 pm A love of football? Edited by Coinfrog 09/14/2022 8:01 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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