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1877-S Trade Silver Dollar

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in hand now

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Coin is raw so I weighed it. My scale only works to the nearest gram. Trade dollars should be 27.22 grams and silver washed base metal examples often weigh around 18 grams. This coin seems to pass the weight test. Let me know if you see anything that causes concern.

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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Trade dollars from 1877 and after had a Type 2 obverse paired with a Type 2 reverse exclusively. I looked over the markers for these die varieties to see if they are correct. Results are below and it appears that this coin exhibits the correct Type 2 die varieties for both obverse and reverse.

Obverse Types

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Subject coin appears to exhibit the downward facing ribbon ends of the Type 2 Obverse Die Variety.

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Reverse Types Arrowheads Markers

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Subject coin appears to exhibit the correct bottom arrowhead position through the middle of the 2 in 420, and the middle arrow shaft just touching the eagle's wing tip for the Type 2 Reverse Die Variety.

1877-S-Trade-Silver-Dollar

Reverse Types Sprig Leaves and Berries Markers

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Subject coin appears to exhibit the correct bottom leaf position where it drops below the top of the top of the 0 and F in the lettering below and the rightmost berry does not extend over the E in FINE consistent with the Type 2 Reverse Die Variety.

1877-S-Trade-Silver-Dollar
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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I recognize those images...
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Just noticed that the author of the ebay Trade dollar authentication article was one n.s. sherlock. Thanks for the very helpful info!
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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It is my opinion you have a genuine coin. A nice specimen for the grade.
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Agree. It looks cleaned in some images but original in others.
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