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1957-D Cent Clipped Planchet With Blakesly Effect

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Boy this 1957-D group just keeps giving up all kinds of varieties...this one is very cool!
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Haven't seen an edge clip like that before, is the planchet somewhat tapered thin along the edge or look like it was rolled level? Thinking thickness is even because devices filled out just on edge is seen the lack of material flowing into the devices (LI).
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Hopefully, you can tell from this shot, it's the best I can do...
I sat the coin up with the center of the clip facing you.
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Sorry, but that doesn't look like a clip to me.
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with moxking, and wouldn't the Blakesley affect be seen on both sides of the coin opposite the clip?
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Looking at the East edge of the coin for the Blakesley Effect...I could be wrong but I have found one of these before that was verified...

The Blakesley Effect is a term used to describe inefficient metal flow, opposite a clip on a coin, when the rim is formed and the subsequent imperfect or incomplete rim formed at that position after striking (NGC definition from forum).
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I see what Toots is saying, the reverse edge does not match the obverse rim...sorry I missed that.
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Not a clip, agree.
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Not a clip.
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I've never seen an edge clip like this either.That having been said ,it doesn't mean that it's not one.The obverse opposite rim and reverse lack of detail in the wheat head would indicate to me a clipped planchet. Also the obverse rim and edge,at the clip as I see it, indicate metal flow to the center of the clip.
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It is a ragged clip, the blank was most likely punched from the edge of the metal stock sheet.
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It is most definitely legit, and the proper term is a ragged straight end clip.

As biokemist6 stated, probably cut from the edge of the rolling stock. Minor straight clips like this often have a very subtle, if any Blakesley effect, because there is enough pressure distributed across the coin to form the rim on the opposite side. Curved clips cause a much more rapid drop in pressure across the coin, and stronger Blakesley Effects.
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Look at the obverse rim, 3 o'clock. A weakening of the rim is slightly noticeable in OPs pic! There's your Blakesley, as stated there was just enough metal to just about flow correctly. Then notice the edge, the top and bottom surfaces are folding into the center from the stamping pressures. Ragged edge, just on the edge, clip.
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You can definitely see the blakesly on obverse and no you don't have to see the same blakesly effect on obverse and reverse, nice find
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What is the weight of this coin?
If it is a clip, it should be slightly under 3.1 grams.
If it were a clip, the details would be clearer in the area of the clip "LIBERTY". The coin looks like it has a formed rim in that area also, extending into the field, like it was pushed there.
I'm not saying it's not a clip, yet. I want more information.

EDIT: If you look closely at the area suspected of showing the Blakesley effect, it looks like it has flattened out the metal like it was smashed there, making the coin out of round. It's difficult to tell for sure from these images, but worth checking out.
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Weight 2.88g...
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