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Still waiting on a response from the Phil Mint
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I am not surprised. They are probably going 
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Hopefully the task will land in the lap of that spunky young intern who will not quit until they find the answer. 
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Quote: Maybe they made a change to coin dies around that time and felt it would be easier to just add the P to all coins at that time. Except that it wouldn't have been easier. At that time they were still puting the mintmark on each die individually by hand. Deciding to add the P mintmark meant that thousands of additional dies would require and additional hand done step in manufacturing. Once the mintmark moved to the master hub stage adding the P would make sense, but not before then.
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Probably the same reason they added P to the nickel in 1942 and then removed it after the war. I.e. no particular reason?
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I imagine the P was added to the nickel (and moved/made larger like the others) to differentiate the metal content. There was no such change in 1979/1980.
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I'm not certain but I seem to recall that after the P mintmark was added to the dollar that some people were asking why not the other coins.
I do remember that the mint said they'd not add it to the cent because they were afraid of people saving more pennies.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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Quote: I do remember that the mint said they'd not add it to the cent because they were afraid of people saving more pennies. If they added the P to the cent before 1986, they would have to put an S and W on those minted in San Francisco (until 1983) and West Point (until 1986). Their much lower mintage numbers would have encouraged hoarding.
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Alpha2814, yes I agree and I kind of meant that there was no reason given (from what I was able to find) to remove the P again after the war but I suppose they removed it for the same reason - to denote that the composition changed back.
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The official reason for the large mintmarks on the warnickels was to make them easy to spot for possible later recovery of the silver (two warnickels contained more silver than a dime did.) They had used similar explanation in the past for using symbols to indicate weight changes in the Seated coinage in 1853 and 73.
Edited by Conder101 01/13/2018 09:08 am
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That is very interesting.
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Thank you for sharing.  Although, not telling us anything that we did not already know.
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Yes, the first link has nothing to do with the question, the second tells us they added the mintmak to all the P mint coins but not why. It also contains incorrect information. Quote: Master Die Manufacturing All master dies, including those used in the Mint's numismatic and medal programs, are manufactured in the Die Manufacturing Division of the Philadelphia Mint.[b] Mint marks are added to the hubs at Philadelphia. These hubs make the working dies used to stamp coins. Mint-marked working dies are then delivered to the appropriate Mint facility for use in coining. All the working dies needed for the Denver facility are produced by the Denver Die Manufacturing Division along with some of the dies for the San Francisco facility. Content last updated on November 15, 2016[/quote] Re: the section in bold. You don't add mintmarks to working hubs. To do so would mean having to add a raised letter to the hub, Just how do you do that? The mintmark is on the MASTER hub created from the original model or cut by computer. The master hub then creates the master dies which therefore have the mintmark. The master dies make working hubs and the working hubs make working dies.
Edited by Conder101 01/30/2018 2:38 pm
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