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1972-P LMC Doubled, Doubling, Doubleday, What?

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Got this Gem Red BU Roll and started looking through it;
there is an extra material on the "L" in Liberty
and a few split letters in IGWT...
1972-P-LMC-Doubled,-Doubling,-Doubleday,-What?
1972-P-LMC-Doubled,-Doubling,-Doubleday,-What?
1972-P-LMC-Doubled,-Doubling,-Doubleday,-What?
1972-P-LMC-Doubled,-Doubling,-Doubleday,-What?
1972-P-LMC-Doubled,-Doubling,-Doubleday,-What?
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Great pix! But...MDD, classic Master Die Doubling. Here's Coop's layout:

1972-P-LMC-Doubled,-Doubling,-Doubleday,-What?


BUT...let's take another look at the L of LIBERTY...working on it...Show me the lower leg of the 2
1972-P-LMC-Doubled,-Doubling,-Doubleday,-What?
1972-P-LMC-Doubled,-Doubling,-Doubleday,-What?



Listed as 1972 DDO-010 on varietyvista.com. NOW, the IGWT on this example IS MDD and not a doubling that should be attributed to this listing. The doubling should be see on the L, as is with ths extra material and nub on top. It should have indication above the upper side end of 2.

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01/19/2018 7:37 pm
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Thanks Crazyb0, I was looking myself and noticed the 1964-P CONECA DDO-022/WDDO-007 is a match on the "L"...

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Your coin is the Doubled Master Die, nearly all 1972 cents have this. The doubling on the L is also from the doubled master die.
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Tanner, no it isn't. The B is not nub the L I

Dude, the nub on yours is shorter, makes a difference, and wrong date
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Here ya go...mine resembles yours but is more faint in material just above the lower leg...

1972-P-LMC-Doubled,-Doubling,-Doubleday,-What?

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No, now that's MDD checkCoop's above. That's an almost, not quite. Rats!
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Horseshoes and hand grenades close!

Thanks for all the effort on proving/disproving!
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Wow...check this out, I looked at the next two closely and noticed this...

1972-P-LMC-Doubled,-Doubling,-Doubleday,-What?
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Those fool me every time SF11Dude! I tend to look at mine so many times hoping it some how magically changes its into one. But as Groucho use to say...

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http://goccf.com/t/305936#2619495

Thanks CrazyB0; trying to make sure I am clear so I can understand it...
If an "L" with a nub is considered a DDO in '64

Are you saying the same nubbed "L" can't be the same type of error/DDO in another year?

AND or OR the length of the nub determines whether or not it meets the criteria for a DDO?

I realized my example was from another year but I wanted to show the similarity to see if that mattered.

Thanks
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While they are doubled dies, they are so common because one the master dies (which only two were made) transferred the doubling on down the line:
1972-P-LMC-Doubled,-Doubling,-Doubleday,-What?
The design was pasted down to the working hubs and the working dies. So about 50% if the coins that year had a chance to be master die doubled. So it is so common, there is not premium for them. But there is a few doubled dies are a few dies of with the master die doubling.
(die #9 Philly)
http://varietyvista.com/01b%20LC%20...2PDDO009.htm
http://varietyvista.com/01b%20LC%20...2PDDO010.htm
Wexler:
http://doubleddie.com/384301.html
1972 1¢ WDDO-009
1972 1¢ WDDO-013
1972 1¢ WDDO-014
1972 1¢ WDDO-020
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