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1956-P-1c LWC DDO? Need To Have Objective Opinion

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hello Fellows,
i would like to know what others think about this coin. there seems to be the obvious spread on the S in trust and others?
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Sorry,but looks like circulation damage to me.
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On the S and the 5... looks like Die Chips to me... but I am not an expert
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Looks like circulation damage to me as well.



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It is die wear. On the older process of making dies (I call them Multi-hubbed dies) the die wear starts to breakdown on the sides that face the rim. The edge of the devices loose their shape first. Then the curve goes away and eventually devices start start flowing towards the rims.
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If the earliest die states that edge near the rim is strong and sharp. After a few thousand coins, this edge (closest to the rim on the die) goes away and we see it start to break down like the image I posted above. I call this die wear. The devices on these coins and the designs are what I call as high profile devices. The wear starts on the tops of these devices and eventually affects the lower part of the devices.
This is different from Die Deterioration in the way it happens. On the lower profile dies (single squeeze dies, the devices are not as tall and they start to show deterioration next to the devices not on the devices like you would see on die wear.
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Note how the fields are affected, rather than the devices like on the previous die wear devices as mentioned above. Thus I call the example form Die Deterioration on examples of the single squeezed dies as that deterioration as it affects not the devices, but the fields next to the devices. On this example, post above, the date shows on the right side of the coin, the LIBERTY to the left side of the coin and on the motto, the tops of the devices. Just like die wear they follow the same direction, but affect the die in a different area. So I call them as I see them. If they affect the devices themselves I call them die wear. If they affect the area next to the devices on the fields, I call them Die Deterioration. True both are die wear, but how the way is different.
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Die wear.
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So, is that what is considered Late Die Stage (LDS)?
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Correct. On the VLDS the die wear is even stronger. The die flow in the fields are also an indicator of die wear, but sometimes these are polished out and the devices get thinner in size because of the polishing altering the dies.
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The above die was polished heavier on the side closer to the rim. Thus the thinner devices.
Sometimes even the bust is so over polished, some mid devices get removed from die polishing:
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Note how the devices are reduced in size because of the polishing.
coophome= die over polishing
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very good to know... Thank you very much!
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