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Valued Member
United States
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Hello all, I picked up this Two Cent Piece, and it is now my oldest US coin! I was looking at it in hand, and close up pics show that the one in the date closest to the 7 is almost touching with a longer top horizontal section. I looked at images on-line for the business strike, they all have a one that is not as close to the seven. See the pics, thanks.   |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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based on the state of the rims it doesn't look like a proof strike to me.
one of the diagnostics of 1871 2c proofs is that the right arrowhead is strongly doubled. I looked at your picture and it does not appear to exhibit that characteristic. maybe you could take a closer look.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
01/22/2018 7:07 pm
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Valued Member
 United States
179 Posts |
Thanks numismatic_student, I'll look at it with the microscope later. It seems like environmental damage to me (maybe it was in a stash outside or something), and then roughly cleaned. All the pictures of the MS coins show normal ones, and the limited number of pics of 1871 proofs that are found online, show this funky "long nose" one configuration. I'm just curious, no intention to have this graded, but sure would be cool as the proof is certainly much rarer.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The date doesn't look right to me.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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no intention to have this graded I doubt this is a proof, but if it is, then it should be sent for grading. I can't find any images on the Web of any Two Cent Piece with the 1 touching the 7. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10982 Posts |
Could just be the images but my first concern would be authentication. I also doubt it is a (very) impaired proof.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1261 Posts |
Sorry but this isn't an authentic coin. The date is all wrong and the strike is completely mushy. Look at the Shield detail above the date. Hopefully you can return it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
8521 Posts |
I'm pretty sure it's a counterfeit too.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
8715 Posts |
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Sorry but this isn't an authentic coin. The date is all wrong and the strike is completely mushy. Look at the Shield detail above the date. Hopefully you can return it. Exactly what I was thinking. Return it immediately. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5079 Posts |
100% Chinese business strike.
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Valued Member
United States
179 Posts |
ok, thanks, it very well could be a counterfeit. I did see some on (Not Allowed) dot com, but the date was super mushy. Of course, there are probably numerous counterfeit dies. I did take a pic of the date and compare it to a proof date, seems close, and the only other plausible explanation would be that it was whizzed so much a long time ago. Due Occam's razor, I'll consider a refund ;)  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Counterfeit for sure. Good luck, get that refund.  to the CCF! |
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Valued Member
United States
179 Posts |
Yep, and thanks, I found the exact fake online for $6. I am trying to get a refund, and if not, I will contact their local sheriff and/or law enforcement to discuss.
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Posted 01/22/2018 7:19 pm
