Just In: 1858 20c Blundered I In Gratia Now Recognized By PCGS

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canadian-varieties Pillar of the Community Canada 1442 Posts	Posted 01/24/2018 9:49 pm This variety only showed up in the population report in the last 1-2 days, after I sent two of these into PCGS. Here is the population report of the 1858 20c Blundered I in GRATIA. The population currently stands at 6. https://www.PCGS.com/pop/detail.aspx?c=4356 And here are my two examples: AU50: https://www.PCGS.com/cert/30310099 XF45: https://www.PCGS.com/cert/21927089 Edited by canadian-varieties 01/24/2018 9:50 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Muskokarocks Valued Member Canada 63 Posts	Posted 01/25/2018 12:22 am I cant beleive its not butter. I mean cleaned. Report this Post to the Staff
canadian-varieties Pillar of the Community Canada 1442 Posts	Posted 01/25/2018 9:27 pm Cleaned? Come on! Report this Post to the Staff
Optimist-numismatist Pillar of the Community Canada 683 Posts	Posted 01/25/2018 9:34 pm Personally I'd say the Ef45 looks closer to a vf35, but I personally wouldn't say it looks cleaned. As for The Au-50 I actually think PCGS was pretty on the money with her. Report this Post to the Staff
1960NYGiants Pillar of the Community United States 669 Posts	Posted 01/25/2018 10:02 pm The other AU50 is in my collection. And yes, I think it is optimistically graded. https://www.PCGS.com/cert/33391928 Gene LM of RCNA Member of CATC Report this Post to the Staff
canadian-varieties Pillar of the Community Canada 1442 Posts	Posted 01/25/2018 11:43 pm Great coin Gene... This variety (Blundered I in GRATIA) is much harder to find in EF+ grades than people realize... Report this Post to the Staff
bosox Pillar of the Community United States 1353 Posts	Posted 01/25/2018 11:46 pm Ditto. Nice coin 1960NYGiants. http://www.victoriancent.com 2011 & 2025 Fred Bowman Literary Award Winner, 2020 J. Douglas Ferguson Award Winner, & 2022 Paul Fiocca Award Winner. Life Member of RCNA. Report this Post to the Staff
Optimist-numismatist Pillar of the Community Canada 683 Posts	Posted 01/26/2018 3:40 pm Quote: .The other AU50 is in my collection. And yes, I think it is optimistically graded. Yea, I find PCGS' "definition" of AU is usually quite... Loose? I find most of the coins PCGS grades AU-58 seem to fall anywhere within the Au50 to MS60 range usually lower looking than AU58 and most PCGS AU50s I have seen seem to more resemble ICCS EF-40s. Report this Post to the Staff
canadian-varieties Pillar of the Community Canada 1442 Posts	Posted 01/28/2018 3:19 pm That is true...I routinely have ICCS EF40s jump up to PCGS AU50 or PCGS AU53...although these days ICCS is starting to slip... But there are about 20% ICCS EF40s that are cleaned and scratched that would be rejected by PCGS completely... I think in 10 years...ICCS will not be around...and PCGS will likely step in and take over the Canadian market, when they open an office in Canada and offer competitive prices Report this Post to the Staff
Optimist-numismatist Pillar of the Community Canada 683 Posts	Posted 01/28/2018 9:10 pm Eh can't entirely disagree with You C-V. Both fine examples of why collectors should try and learn to grade a bit on their own. Also can't deny its a nice advantage when PCGS will certify certain Canadian coin variety's that ICCS won't (at least from what I have heard). Report this Post to the Staff
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