Can you post a closeup of the area where exactly you see doubling? The letter C in America looks interesting, but right now it looks like Machine Doubling (MD).
Cuds are on a coin's rim. That on your second coin looks like a die chip? But being in the field and not attached to part of the design is puzzling.
and in this case, instead of altering your original title you probably should have started a new thread for the second coin. Since its already changed, we will stick with this one.
Right it took .me a minute to figure out how to post the first one and instead of doing it all over I just did it on this one but anyhow what should I do with the 2nd one? I'm not a collector I just crh and mainly get wheaties but seen these two the other day and thought I would find out a little more about them.
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