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 Posted 05/23/2008  2:51 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add j74b to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I went to a rummage sale of fishing lure Etc and scored this for $25 a 1831 cent ,after an hour of research I figure it's a medium date n-2 medium die state

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 Posted 05/23/2008  3:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably worth well upwards of $100 (300 in EF on pcgs price guide), great find.
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 Posted 05/23/2008  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bilbo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find!

I'd estimate the grade at F-15.

A common 1831 in F-15 should wholesale for $30-35 and retail $40-50. (I'm not sure whether being an N-2 in medium die state adds any to the value.)
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 Posted 05/23/2008  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnAP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
pretty nice "rummage" you scored there, congrats!
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 Posted 05/23/2008  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hunter20ga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find!
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 Posted 05/23/2008  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thingee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yup! It's the season for rummage and garage sales!

Congrats on your NICE find!

I've gotta hit more of these sales next weekend!
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 Posted 05/23/2008  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like that die centering dot on the reverse. Nice find!
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 Posted 05/23/2008  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add m9frank to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great find!
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 Posted 05/23/2008  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say it's way better than Fine, maybe VF 30, but I'm not familiar with these coins.
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Years ago when I collected copper , to EAC this would be be a F 12-15 under current TPG Vf 30 , the picture of the front does not do it proper justice,the
color and fields are very clean, it does have the two scratches on front but a very presentable early copper.
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 Posted 05/24/2008  10:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
j74b, do you think this is because of the grading companies or what? this one coin dealer was telling me about grading companies more recently have started grading based on what they think would pass for a 'market AU' for example rather than their merit alone
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 Posted 05/24/2008  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good buy.
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 Posted 05/24/2008  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j74b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With EAC grading it was basically for collectors being able to rank their coins and scarcity with Newcombe for Cents , I used Cohen for 1/2 cents, these are collector coins. In 1986 David Hall and six cohorts started PCGS with the principal that coins could be marketed (like stocks) buy and sell ,sight unseen , and this would bring investors into the coin realm, at the time only ANACS Certified coins and they were coming under fire, because at that time, you only had MS60 Unc, MS63 Choice Unc, Ms65 Gem Unc, and Ms67 Superb Unc. they wanted to add more numbers and some felt they should use descriptions only. Some feel this was PCGS tightest grading, NGC followed , every so often, they say grades change with the market. What is the Market ?, with the price of gold per ounce , that eliminates gold coins. you have halves(Walkers, Franklins) dollars (Morgans and Peace to smaller extent), and Modern (the search for MS70), when collector coins get caught in the investor market which usually involves high grade keys only, these dry up and they go onto the next great deal, some say PCGS makes the Market, but as collectors we should buy the coin first, and like that coin not its market value. Twenty two years ago common date Ms65 Walkers in PCGS or NGC Holder sold for over thousand dollars, I keep the old CW's and Coin rags how many more years do they have to hold these to make a profit? Just my Two Cents worth.(or large cent)
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 Posted 05/24/2008  6:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnAP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
j74b,

Very informative and insightful. Thanks, and welcome to the forum!

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 Posted 05/24/2008  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not expert, by any means, but the coin has a sweet reverse and it's 177 years old. Buy what you like, you'll never be disappointed.
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 Posted 05/29/2008  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NICE !....that's inspiration enough to hit some "rummage sales" right there !!.....
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