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1897-S Morgan- VAM4- Just Got It Today.

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 Posted 05/24/2008  2:40 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add chuckster 125 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Purchased this Morgan a few days ago, just came in:

1897S VAM4- Doubled 1-7-Die Gouge Wreath Bow.

Opinions on grade is appreciated.

Thanks.


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 Posted 05/25/2008  06:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS-63 fine coin and VAM too nice!
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Sorry I didn't respond to your email, it has been a busy weekend. We are landscaping our yard, and it's taking way too long.

It does appear to be a nice coin, but I would hold off on grading until I could see the full obverse and reverse pics. Your closeups are great however, and I'm sure you have found the correct VAM, I haven't checked it personally, but you are getting pretty good at finding them yourself. I'll check it out later when I have some more time. Nice coin, looks like you got a good buy.
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*I hear ya!- just got done myself today mowing, cleaning the deck furniture etc for tomorrow. Have a Great Memeorial Day to all!


I spotted the horizonal line below the crossbar of the number one, matched it up with that VAM and decided to go for it.

Even with a grade of MS60- I'd be ahead of the game based on what I paid for the coin.
*I like amac44's grade- DONE! MS63 it is :)
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 Posted 05/25/2008  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's "Memorial Day"

*Got to start using that "Check Spelling" more often.
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NGiles:

Here are some more pics-Obv & Rev

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 Posted 05/25/2008  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
amac44:

Thanks for the MS63 grade, but in looking at this coin up close under 15X and 20X - I'm going to grade this a MS60- it has way too many noticeable surface marks, according to the RED-BOOK on grading Morgan's, to be a MS63.

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 Posted 05/26/2008  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NGiles to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I checked out the VAMworld site, It sure looks like the VAM 4 to me nice find. I would say your coin is probably in the MS 60-63 range. Nice coin!
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 Posted 05/26/2008  10:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks!!
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Quote:
but in looking at this coin up close under 15X and 20X - I'm going to grade this a MS60- it has way too many noticeable surface marks


You need to back off the magnification for grading, even professional graders don't use more than 7-10x.
At 20x, every little tiny imperfection will be magnified so much that it makes the coin look like it went through trench warfare
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Thanks for the grading info-

I guess I better get an in-between loupe- I have a 5X and then I go to 15X and 20X from an old microscope I had as a kid, for closer pics etc. Better pick up a 10x- :)

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