Strange Listings Of Russian Coins On E-Bay

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otto Pillar of the Community United States 1326 Posts	Posted 01/30/2018 07:41 am I hope this is the correct forum. Take a look at this listing, as well as a similar one by this seller. Scroll down to read what he is trying to accomplish. 222807933815 * Moved by Staff moved to a more appropriate forum. * Report this Post to the Staff

BigSilver Pillar of the Community United States 2843 Posts	Posted 01/30/2018 10:09 am Very Interesting. Here's the story for those who don't want to go to the listing. He apparently bought some "rare" Russian coins from a shady seller and sent them to NGC for grading. They all came back as not encapsulated. He is trying to raise awareness with an ebay listing that will attract people to read his story. He requests that bids be placed in $1 increments to increase the awareness factor. After the listing ends, he will cancel and you will receive nothing. Report this Post to the Staff
chafemasterj Pillar of the Community United States 6514 Posts	Posted 01/30/2018 10:18 am The way you said it makes a lot more sense than what I read. Weirdest listing I've seen to date. More power to him if that's the case. Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection: http://goccf.com/t/303507 Edited by chafemasterj 01/30/2018 10:19 am Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 189767 Posts	Posted 01/30/2018 11:08 am That is... strange. Sticking it to the man, I guess. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
cableguy815 Valued Member United States 414 Posts	Posted 01/30/2018 11:13 am Nice of him to do this but too bad he got burned. The vast majority of imperial Russian coins on ebay are ugly, horrible, cast fakes. If you can't discern on pictures, a close inspection of the coin in hand will confirm forgery status. I purchased a forgery of a Rouble some time ago (paid about $200 for it) with the sole purpose to cause the seller a headache as I was certain he knowingly and willingly sold forgeries (many forgeries sold in his history of sold coins). Upon receipt of the coin I filed a case with ebay. The seller naturally objected and claimed authenticity. Then a detailed email explaining the reasons why this coin was a forgery made him change his position to "oh I didn't know, I'm not an expert" but he wasn't really keen on issuing a refund. Long story short, after some hassle I got ebay to force a refund because I was able to prove the coin I actually received was not the coin the was sold. There were many different marks, the toning was different, the shape was a bit different, etc. I'm guessing these guys have an assembly line where they just roll out this garbage from. Can you believe this... he didn't even send the correct forgery! The gall! Report this Post to the Staff
gxseries Pillar of the Community Australia 3831 Posts	Posted 01/30/2018 5:26 pm This is not the first time I've seen. It's a seller's idea to encourage buyers to be aware of counterfeits. But I would be a bit careful when you dare to put in other seller's account - wait till they claim defamation. It gets very ugly from there. Do you know what the irony is? The Mongolian coins that he is selling - one of the coins is a well known Chinese counterfeit! My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseries My numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htm Regularly updated at least once a month. Report this Post to the Staff
Guybrush Valued Member Taiwan 192 Posts	Posted 01/30/2018 5:46 pm What if... people bid and think "oh okay let's just do this and make more people aware of the fakes", and that last one bidder gets unlucky: the seller doesn't cancel the auction and the unsuspecting bidder loses money. Who knows, with this method maybe the seller could generate more bids and views compared to "vanilla" fakes? if this is indeed the case, how would ebay deal with it? Edited by Guybrush 01/30/2018 5:48 pm Report this Post to the Staff
gxseries Pillar of the Community Australia 3831 Posts	Posted 01/30/2018 7:17 pm Who knows, some buyers might be generous enough to "donate" for his information. Unless a buyer cries foul - I cannot see how he's violating any rules. My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseries My numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htm Regularly updated at least once a month. Report this Post to the Staff
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