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Is This A RPM?

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 Posted 05/25/2008  4:04 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jdbooth to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have never seen a mint-mark so highly raised off the field of a coin before. To me it looks like it has been stamped at least twice with the stamp drifting slightly. The MM in question also appears to be out of normal alignment, but I don't think this is a big deal as far as die varieties go. I am not very knowledgeable about RPM's and am supplying five images; 1)A nominal image of the MM of this date to make a comparison, 2)The MM in question, 3)An overlay of both MM's with their left hand sides aligned, 4)A close-up of the third image, 5)An overly with the background fields aligned

Image: Is-This-A-RPM? Nom_D.jpg
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Image: Is-This-A-RPM? Strong_D.jpg
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Image: Is-This-A-RPM? D_Overlay2.jpg
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Image: Is-This-A-RPM? D_Overlay1.jpg
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Image: Is-This-A-RPM? D_Overlay3.jpg
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Here are four more close-up images with different lighting angles.

Image: Is-This-A-RPM? D0.jpg
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Image: Is-This-A-RPM? D1.jpg
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Image: Is-This-A-RPM? D2.jpg
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Image: Is-This-A-RPM? D3.jpg
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Here is one more image: a close up of a normal mintmark of this date

Image: Is-This-A-RPM? NormalD.jpg
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Edited by jdbooth
05/26/2008 08:05 am
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 Posted 05/25/2008  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi jdbooth,

It is easier to get an idea with a nice clear shot of the mintmark. The overlays are interesting but they don't really aid much in trying to figure out what you have.

Howsabout a few pictures of the mintmark that are perhaps a little bigger and with lighting from different angles.

Thanks,
Bill.

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 Posted 05/25/2008  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdbooth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I added four more close-ups of the D from different directions and they are slightly larger.

John Booth
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 Posted 05/25/2008  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coffeegod to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first pic of the last four "D0.jpg" looks to verify possible RPM. I see some small splitting to the upper serif. I'll let the others verify it though.

Eric
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 Posted 05/25/2008  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdbooth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Eric for your opinion, it is appreciated.

John Booth
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 Posted 05/26/2008  02:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do not think it is an RPM. It looks like a worn mintmark punch was used. I lightened the pictures and I see no real evidence of it being a repunched mintmark.

Thanks,
Bill
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 Posted 05/26/2008  06:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdbooth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK I could see that, the D does appear to be thicker then the normal D. but when comparing the normal looking D to this D the in overlay the serifs align. The shift to the right is clear and as shown in D0 there is a rounded step down.

The other thing is the height of the mintmark, it stand slightly higher then the date. I have never seen anything like it.

Supposedly there are at least three repunched mintmarks for this year and mint. I will try and located a reference and image for them. Who knows they might be this one of them, if indeed this is an RPM.

John Booth
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 Posted 05/26/2008  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
grading is an opinion it clear that U have your's others have there's that what an opinion is. but larger picture would help us all.
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I think the image is as large as I can get it to be with a limit of 90Kb per image without being too grainy or distorted.

You are right about opinions and I appreciate every opinion. It probably is a worn punch. I just wanted to restate why I thought it was a repunch.

I did forget to thank foundinrolls for his post and I thank you for yours. I know that he and almost everyone else in this forum know more then I do about RPM's.

In case anyone is wondering I have not stated what year this coin is because I wanted an unbiased opinion from everyone that replied.

I did find some other RPM's on coppercoins site that look similar, but its hard to tell because the images were small.

John Booth
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05/26/2008 11:16 am
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 Posted 05/26/2008  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coffeegod to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know FIR... Take a closer look at "Nom_D.jpg" & "D3.jpg". There is a step down in those pics. I'm almost betting that this could be an RPM... not a prominant one, but non the less an RPM.
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 Posted 05/26/2008  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll gladly play with the images and check again. I have some stuff to do today but I'll take another look later or tomorrow.

Thanks,

Bill
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 Posted 05/26/2008  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just a guess, but the mintmark looks to be pre 1985, If I had to guess, I think 1983 or 1984. How Close AM I?
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 Posted 05/26/2008  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdbooth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are TOO good!!

I just sent you an email with that info.

John
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