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 Posted 05/19/2008  09:56 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Bill I hope you can help.
this 2005-D Minn DDR but what Die I have 1 grade Die#3 and an other Die#6? So what die is it in your mind?
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Hey Bill if you what to get 10 centavos of you hand's E-mail me good article this week I always find slug from an electrical box or something like that!
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In Wexler's files for D mint Minnesota quarters, #3 is on a Matte Uncirculated piece and #6 has a large extended part connecting the bottom of the third full tree at the right of the state outline to the outcropping just to the right of the tree. So this can't be either one.

What do you think is doubled? It doesn't line up with any of the D mint Doubled dies that I am aware of and it does look like it might just be due to Die Deterioration but I don't want to say for sure until we can go back and forth a little on where you see doubling.

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 Posted 05/20/2008  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK bill the 2 tree's to the west of rock plus the extra blob between the tree's
2 different folk have this same looking coin grade 1 by Anacs & they not it was Die#3 DDR tree's and the other one was graded by ICG and it was grade Die#6 they both look the same to me but with 65-70+ Dies's as DDR tree's list for the P&D State Quarter I am baffled.
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 Posted 05/20/2008  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All the images appear as normal coins to me.
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Copper ck out the BW picture you can see the doubling down the 2 trees on them and the blob metal in the middle of the 2 trees is a marker the was list by John Wexler,and their about 65-70 different die types I have see list in Coin World.
plus I have sold 2 of them and they were both graded 1 by Anacs that they detailed it MS-64 Die#3 DDR Tree's and the other was graded by ICG the same exact coin MS-65 Die#6 DDR Tree's
I have 4 rolls of gem bu 2 of each mint and have picked out about about 20 coin out them 160 P&D's that have the date markers and other thing that list at Wexler site plus all the photo in Coin World.
so this in not some I think it is I know all but what die and it looks like TPG are all over the place with the same exact coin.
I just wish they had send picture back with a e-mail
I have had 1 who did with philly 2005-P Die#13. I am thing this coin is going to be like all the 72 D&S but it has less die variety's than the 65-70 MS coin and there even some more for the S minted proof clad & silver Minnesota P&D. I am just baffled how the same thing is different by 2 grading company's

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To be honest, I don't think the graders have a clue on these yet. The reason I think so is that the "blob" between the trees is on every coin and isn't a marker of anything. It is part of the design.

Also, the die #3 according to John's files is on a matte uncirculated piece which is not a circulation strike. So...the graders whether it be ANACS or ICG seems not to be fully aware of the distinctions between the varieties on these.

This is why slabs don't always help the hobby.

Thanks,
Bill

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I am the only one who attributes little to no value towards these Minesota DDR error varieties because there are SO many varieties and most of them are so minor? I don't even bother looking for them.
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I didn't take the time to do fabulous shots of these, but one is a 2005 P and the next is a 2005 D. The "blob" is a part of the design as seen on both of these. I just wanted to show that the "blob" doesn't mean anything on these as a marker. Thanks, Bill

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Bill thank you for all the time spent trying answering in my question!! It was wrong about blob in the trees but it maybe the shape of it the but Is I read in Coin World or some ware I read it at and it some how stuck in. I just put out all the Coin Wold I could find with Minnesota error in maybe it refresh my mind.
*Bill&Copper it Ken potter site not John Weyler

So what it boil down it the TPG that you use?

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Hi Amac,

Scroll down the page on Ken's site. The numbers for the die varieties are Cross referenced to try to be consistent but John Wexler catalogued most of these. We share this stuff all the time in the world of die varieties.

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Bill
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 Posted 05/25/2008  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Bill! I will I have been there quite a bit lately!
@*thank for all the help!!*@
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My Pleasure! You are very welcome!
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