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Newbie234 Pillar of the Community United States 1386 Posts	Posted 02/02/2018 11:48 am I found this one today and I really like it,Mainly because I haven't seen this type before. The die ______ ( fill in the blank) is somewhat faint but can be seen easily with a 5x loupe. I know in the closeup it's hard to tell,But the anomaly runs from the eye all the way down to the DI. Any advice is greatly appreciated! Report this Post to the Staff

Tunnioc Pillar of the Community United States 3181 Posts	Posted 02/02/2018 12:28 pm Die Dent Report this Post to the Staff
moxking Rest in Peace United States 17900 Posts	Posted 02/02/2018 5:15 pm Awfully straight for a die crack. Report this Post to the Staff
Newbie234 Pillar of the Community United States 1386 Posts	Posted 02/02/2018 5:42 pm That's why I put fill in the blank! I still need work on MM's,Die whatever's and edge strike throughs among other things. I admit I'm a slow learner, But I like to be precise, very precise! Report this Post to the Staff
Newbie234 Pillar of the Community United States 1386 Posts	Posted 02/04/2018 11:58 am So far in this box of nickels I've found 12 of these. I'm 1.5 rows into the box which is 99% 2017 P's. So it looks like these aren't very rare. Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 02/04/2018 12:03 pm Doesn't sound like it! Report this Post to the Staff
Tunnioc Pillar of the Community United States 3181 Posts	Posted 02/04/2018 11:53 pm Die Gouge Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 02/05/2018 12:56 pm That area is deeper into the die, so I don't think it is a die dent, or die gouge. Seems odd that the field is weaker than the bust area affected. But die polishing affects just the field so that could weaken that area. Not sure on this one. The strongest areas is deeper inside the die. Looks like I might have Mike Diamond to look that this one? Report this Post to the Staff
mikediamond Pillar of the Community United States 2739 Posts	Posted 02/05/2018 1:15 pm Coop is right that your garden-variety die gouge or die dent should be strongest in the field and the areas of shallowest relief. Here it's the opposite. Which suggests to me that this elevation represents a piece of hubbed-in debris that fell out of the working die after hubbing was completed. Error coin writer and researcher. Report this Post to the Staff
Newbie234 Pillar of the Community United States 1386 Posts	Posted 02/05/2018 3:24 pm My day thus far has been total dung, But to get get Coop and Mike Diamond to respond to my post, Well Life is looking up. Could I send one of these to either of you two for a closer look? Report this Post to the Staff
mikediamond Pillar of the Community United States 2739 Posts	Posted 02/05/2018 3:46 pm An in-hand examination would add nothing to the evidence already provided by your excellent photos. I did write about a similar coin in Coin World: https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-c...mpe.all.html Unfortunately, the images are no longer there. Still, it fleshes out my explanation. Error coin writer and researcher. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 02/05/2018 5:46 pm Thanks Mike. I knew it had to be something different as it broke all the rules of a die issue to me. Always good to enlarge our coin-iary (sorry, made up word) education. Here is a bit of home work for you. Put a nickel with this design under a microscope and place a put a tooth pick on the coin. This will help you to see how small the struck through item could be. Measure between the cheek to the collar on the coat. That will give you an idea how small it was. New try a straight pin/needle or even something smaller if you have an item like that. Then you will see how minor something would have to be to cause this issue. (Images would be helpful also) Edited by coop 02/05/2018 5:51 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Halo1st Pillar of the Community United States 2775 Posts	Posted 02/05/2018 6:48 pm Newbie234, this example made me reflect back on your other two examples. Thanks, Doug. http://goccf.com/t/286249&SearchTer...12,scar,face Report this Post to the Staff
Newbie234 Pillar of the Community United States 1386 Posts	Posted 02/13/2018 11:39 am Thanks Halo, It did ring a bell with me as well! I thought of the other 2017 P nickel. But I can't seem to find the thread.I finished the box and found a whopping 56 with the same hubbed in debris. But I also found these 2 with what looks like a rim burr strike through. I also laid a toothpick on the last pic. That was seriously small piece of debris! Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 02/13/2018 12:50 pm Just had a funny thought. This coin would look unique if it had a Phantom of the opera mask on it. It would have been a project for me, if I had the software for my new computer to make one. So I guess someone else will have to run with my idea. LOL Report this Post to the Staff
Tunnioc Pillar of the Community United States 3181 Posts	Posted 02/13/2018 1:03 pm Thanks Mike and coop Rim burr across lips also Newbie? Report this Post to the Staff
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