1972-S Proof Lincoln Memorial Cent / LMC Doubled Die Obverse / DDO ?

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JDRMCB Pillar of the Community United States 616 Posts	Posted 02/02/2018 5:44 pm If y'all don't mind, please take a look at these less than stellar pics and let me know what you guys think. Thanks in advance! Report this Post to the Staff

kanga Pillar of the Community United States 5825 Posts	Posted 02/02/2018 5:50 pm I see nothing that makes me think it's a DDO. Report this Post to the Staff
Coppergold Pillar of the Community United States 939 Posts	Posted 02/02/2018 5:55 pm I'm going to say it looks like push doubling. And maybe die state too, late for state? Idk though, wait for other response Report this Post to the Staff
Mark1959 Pillar of the Community 7234 Posts	Posted 02/02/2018 5:56 pm Remember proofs are struck twice. 2 times the chance for the machine to jump (MD) Report this Post to the Staff
moxking Rest in Peace United States 17900 Posts	Posted 02/02/2018 6:02 pm Get a can of compressed air and blow all that lint and stuff off the coin or they may cause spotting, especially on a proof coin. Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 02/02/2018 6:04 pm Looks like MD to me. Report this Post to the Staff
JDRMCB Pillar of the Community United States 616 Posts	Posted 02/02/2018 6:09 pm Really? Cause I thought it looked similar to this one.... http://www.varietyvista.com/01b%20L...2SDDO004.htm Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 02/02/2018 6:11 pm Let's wait for coop to chime in. Report this Post to the Staff
Mark1959 Pillar of the Community 7234 Posts	Posted 02/02/2018 6:18 pm The letters in LIBERTY look normal for that date. All other letters don't look like the DDO you posted. Report this Post to the Staff
JDRMCB Pillar of the Community United States 616 Posts	Posted 02/02/2018 6:20 pm Here's a side by side of my coin and pics from Variety Vista.... Report this Post to the Staff
JDRMCB Pillar of the Community United States 616 Posts	Posted 02/02/2018 6:25 pm Report this Post to the Staff
jay4202472000 Pillar of the Community United States 853 Posts	Posted 02/02/2018 6:55 pm The doubling that makes the coin in the link special is the doubled bar of the 2 in the date. That being said, your coin is a doubled die. What you are seeing is the result of the doubled master die. This doubling is seen on roughly half of all 1972 cents, from all 3 mints (P, D, S). Look at the very last listing here: http://doubleddie.com/384301.html Very bottom of the page: 1972 1¢ WMDO-001 Doubled Master Die Report this Post to the Staff
JDRMCB Pillar of the Community United States 616 Posts	Posted 02/02/2018 8:05 pm I get it now! But why are they saying this was caused by a doubled Master Die when in fact the characteristics of this particular master die were caused from the die being re-engraved, very poorly I might add, by an engraver at the Mint? When looking at it, re-engraving makes a lot more sense than trying to convince yourself that what you are seeing was caused by a doubled Master Die. Wow, it's amazing how one little piece of misinformation can cripple your ability to comprehend or even understand the basic etiology of numismatic varieties! Report this Post to the Staff
Mark1959 Pillar of the Community 7234 Posts	Posted 02/02/2018 8:10 pm Quote: Wow, it's amazing how one little piece of misinformation can cripple your ability to comprehend or even understand the basic etiology of numismatic varieties! Don't forget how high magnification also makes things seen that never were meant to be seen! . Report this Post to the Staff
JDRMCB Pillar of the Community United States 616 Posts	Posted 02/02/2018 8:19 pm Quote: Don't forget how high magnification also makes things seen that never were meant to be seen! . I hope that wasn't supposed to make sense in relation to the context of this thread....cause it doesn't. Report this Post to the Staff
Tootallious Rest in Peace United States 1559 Posts	Posted 02/02/2018 9:56 pm Quote: I hope that wasn't supposed to make sense in relation to the context of this thread....cause it doesn't. I think it does. I agree with Mark1959! Too much magnification and everything can start to look doubled. Remember, when TPG's grade coins, including doubled dies, they typically use a 5x loupe. Not 100x or 250x. Just 5x. So in my opinion, what Mark1959 said is in context to almost any coin that you are looking at. Report this Post to the Staff
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1972-S Proof LMC DDO?