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 Posted 02/05/2018  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tunnioc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1889 CC VAM-2A Morgan dollar
Mintage 350,000
Estimated Survival 25,250?

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 Posted 02/05/2018  04:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GERMANICVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As per Heritage and CoinFacts, these would be my coins with the lowest Survival Estimates.

I am excluding varieties, for example of large cents and dimes, which have lower survival estimates than for the year as a whole.


1822 Dime - estimated survival : 200 examples
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1838-O Half Dime - estimated survival 200 examples
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1872-CC Quarter - estimated survival: 120 examples
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I really like that 1872-cc quarter germanicus.

From the same year this S half eagle has a PCGS survival of 115.


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Many French one and two francs I have from the 1820-1850 period have much lower survivals. The 1846K 1F is estimated at four by Le Franc, but that is probably a very limited reporting. These coins are highly sought when they are offered for sale.
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I really like that 1872-cc quarter germanicus.

From the same year this S half eagle has a PCGS survival of 115.


Thank you very much, thq.
I really like that half eagle of yours as well. A scarce coin!
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You guys never cease to amaze me. Just unreal examples!


I think my number 1 example is a 1842-O Seated quarter. Estimated survival is 600. Nowhere near the caliber of coins you folks are posting but I like.

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I think I can get it down to a 4-6 estimate - at least, assuming that my attribution is correct, and that I correctly interpreted the catalogue...


here is another example:

Leicesterrijksdaalder type 2 1595 (Ag 28,14 g) - Province of Overijssel of the Dutch Republic.

Robert Dudley, Earl of Leicester, was Governor-General (1585-1587) of the United Provinces, and sent by Queen Elisabeth to support the Dutch revolt against spain.

OBV/ Leicester holding a bundle of arrows (symbol for the United provinces) CONCORDIA RES PARVAE CRESC UNT TRAN Lion mintmark
REV/ Coats of arms of the 7 united provinces MO.ORD.PROVINC.FOED.BELG.AD.LEG.IMP
Delm. 908 R3 var (unique)

there are quite a few die abnormalities on the OBV of this coin compared to the few other survivors (one in the Deventer Museum):
position of arrow bundle and sword and text CRESC UNT in full instead of CRES
At the auction of Laurens Schulman 26 (19-20 november 2001, lot 1048) it was stated that this coin is probably a unique survivor.

justification marks and some wear and tear, but a rare type indeed

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 Posted 02/25/2018  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dlangs56 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Up to 3 you say... survival estimates below are from PCGS.

Estimated 87 extant for this variety:
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Estimated 387 remaining:
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Estimated 400 remaining:
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I haven't checked all my US coins with the PCGS website, but this must be one of the lowest. 1892-S Barber quarter. Survival estimate: 3,000.

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How would I go about finding out how many are still around? Say, the 1877 cent. Small mintage to start with but how many were melted or lost and how many saved?
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1877 cent -- survival estimate 5000 from PCGS. Check that site below, you'll be amazed at what you can find!

http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/2127
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1808 50C Overton 102 - Rarity 5.
Estimated number believed to exist: 31 - 80 examples in all grades
Finest known: XF45

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1877-S Trade dollar RPD FS-301
Estimated number believed to exist: (?) Only 10 attributed by PCGS

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1877 cent -- survival estimate 5000 from PCGS. Check that site below, you'll be amazed at what you can find!

http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/2127

Thanks for the link. I'm not sure I understand this, though. For instance, the 1877 cent is listed at 5,000 survival but so is the 1891, 1899, 1908, and 1908-S. (Those were just ones I picked at random.)
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1844 sld. Estimated survival 1750.

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For instance, the 1877 cent is listed at 5,000 survival but so is the 1891, 1899, 1908, and 1908-S. (Those were just ones I picked at random.)


It's not uncommon for several dates to have similar survival estimates. If you got those numbers from PCGS then they are correct and that is their survival estimates.
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There's definitely a problem with those PCGS Indians. Even a common date like the 1905 has a survival of 5000. But when you look at the common 1922 Peace dollar survival is 10,000,000. It might have something to do with how many were slabbed. No one slabs 1905 cents unless they're extremely high grade unc. But millions of people filled the hole in their coin books with them.
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