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Edited by jmwilson 02/04/2018 9:23 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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They look very pretty but you might want to post them in the classic coin grading section. ms-65 on the first one and ms-62 prooflike on the second.
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Quote: They look very pretty but you might want to post them in the classic coin grading section. Topic has been relocated. 
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United States
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I'm with MikeF. The first one looks MS65, and the second one looks MS62.
Edited by Darth Morgan 02/04/2018 09:34 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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65+ (shot 66) and 62 PL. The first one is a knockout.
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Could the person that moved this to the US Modern Coin Grading sub-forum please move it to the US Classic and Colonial Grading sub-form?
My apologies for not placing it in the correct sub-forum initially.
I'll post some pics from other angles this evening. Just a little more information for the graders.
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Bedrock of the Community
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1) MS-65. 2) From those pictures, I would think MS-62 PL.
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I've updated the original post with higher resolution pictures. Curious this changes any opinions.
Again... would one of the moderators move this to the Classic Coin Grading sub-forum?
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Pillar of the Community
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1. MS-65+ 2. MS-62PL
I have asked the moderators to move the topic to the Classic forum.
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Quote: Could the person that moved this to the US Modern Coin Grading sub-forum please move it to the US Classic and Colonial Grading sub-form? Oops. I must have fat-fingered the forum selection. 
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64+ 62
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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Very good set of graders here. I had the same impression when I purchased the coins. You might ask... why did I buy the one that seems over-graded? Well, I've seen many (most) 63-65 DMPL coins that appear over-graded. Perhpas my expectations are just flat out wrong. Anyway, here they are. Ex1 is on the left and Ex2 is on the right. (There's more to read at the bottom... below this image.)  I posted this subject because there was another post about guessing the grade. The coin in that post appears to be MS63PL (IMO), but the person that posted hasn't updated with the grade (or at least the grade a local dealer guessed). I suspect the coin is at least MS63DMPL and maybe MS64DMPL. I base this on how the images I took actually turned out. http://goccf.com/t/307371
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Quote: You might ask... why did I buy the one that seems over-graded? Well, I've seen many (most) 63-65 DMPL coins that appear over-graded. Perhpas my expectations are just flat out wrong.
I don't think you're wrong in the sense that you mean. Prooflike and dmpl coins are tough to grade off of pictures because the flaws of these coins become much more pronounced when light reflects off of the mirror surfaces. That's why many collectors prefer to buy the pl's and dplm in higher grades
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Yes, I see that... and I also see the frosted surfaces (cheek part of face in this example) are often in worse share than similar numeric grade non-PL/DMPL coins. Perhaps the grading is more representative of the overall look. So, the mirrored fields may tend to offset some of the abrasions on the frosted surfaces. I think I don't really understand how the grading is applied. It often seems inconsistent.
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The one on the left that is graded MS-64 is undergraded, should be a 65 in my opinion. But a very nice set of Morgan dollars. 
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