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This item weighs 8.35 g and has a diameter of 30.9 mm.

At first I thought it was a coin, but it has no writing on the side with the dragon, and I can't find it in Zeno, so am now leaning in the direction of token.

Can anyone tell what this is?


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Whichever it is it's definitely cool looking.
Look forward to finding out too.
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Seeker55 I am not an expert in Chinese or Japanese coins by any means. However, this does not look like a monetary issue to me. It appears to be a flat machine strike on a thin planchet. The design is executed in a crude fashion for the technology used to produce it. It could be a medal or token of some sort.

The Dragon symbol is usually seen in the Empire period about 1890-1910 but the strike itself looks relatively new. Could be a strike "out of time" used as a souvenir.
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Center character looks like the word "Han"
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I've done some looking. I've seen none of the characters on this coin-token repeated on any token I've come across. Sure doesn't have the look of a circulating currency. I'm really curious what others have to say.

EDIT: The center character is really close to the Chinese one for Game. Maybe not.
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If you are still looking for an answer as to this coin/token's origin someone recommended this database to find it:

https://www.zeno.ru/
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Thanks for the suggestion, and Zeno is a great database for Oriental coins that I only learned about recently. I've used the advanced search tool, putting in the type of metal, weight and/or size and unfortunately haven't found anything on this one, again suggesting that it might be a token rather than a coin.
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Now if only one of us could read Chinese .
(If that's what it is)
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I can try as the word forms look stylised / archiac. From left, the two words look like Gui Ren or Important Person.

Centre top and bottom looks like Chang Shu or Long Stay.

And right side looks like Tong Tian meaning similar or belonging to the same field ? Either its gibberish or I read them wrong.
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Wow. Nice Numister. Maybe it's a token for a hotel's video game arcade?
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chafemasterj, surely you jest. We might want a more expert opinion than mine to chime in.

It's just my stab in the dark at a guess since it's such a oddity.
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Thanks for the input, Numister and chafemasterj. I'm now totally convinced it's a token.
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It would actually be really cool if it was a video area arcade token, maybe for double dragon.
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I found a match! It's an ebay listing. Had to crop it on my phone to get under the 300K.
There was more than one listing.


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Thank you, chafemasterj! I'm very impressed that you were able to find a match, and get the photo down to size.
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Lol. No problem. Me too. Sometimes I get a little OCD.
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