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1909 Lincoln Wheat Cent (P, No VDB) For Grading

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This 1909 Wheat cent is a pretty decent-looking coin. I am using seller's pictures, cropped, so I don't know what it will look like in hand yet. Thoughts on originality and a grade guesstimate?

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66 R/B, original surfaces. Love it.
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I'd say Au-58. Looks to have some light rub on the highest points of the obverse.
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MS-66RB. Very nice
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64 BN.

VERY interesting (and beautiful) surfaces. This copper round is somewhere between woodie and matte.

Obverse hit with medium to late die state dies. Lincoln must have been in a fisticuffs before this picture was taken (mark on the cheekbone).

Reverse - 66 all day long. HAMMERED!
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I love everything about this Lincoln except the obvious Greaser on the L and I .I'm leaning towards the fact that this coin had a very short time in circulation as there is slight rub on hair and beard . AU-59 .
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AU58
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65BN. Very attractive.
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AU-63, nice woody!
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MS-64 BN.
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BadThad.....come on....no riding the fence on this one! LOL!
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Trying to photograph this coin is difficult with my limited skills and the luster. Here are some shots taken at various angles. The coin is a bit darker in hand but not as dark as the seller's photos. I am on the fence myself between AU58BN / MS64BN. It will head off to PCGS or NGC here in about a month and I will pop for the best imaging.

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I can see some nice cartwheel spokes now, much better pictures.

63 from TPG

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Gotta, this is one you have to see in hand, close call.
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The woodgrain texture is very prominent on the reverse, and less so on the obverse.
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The rub on the obverse high points and apparent breaks in the cartwheel spokes in the left and right fields makes it look AU. The toning is also distrubed, it should match the reverse...."cabinet friction"?

The reverse is awesome - it's a 50/50 shot with the TPG's but they usually give these a 63RB.
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