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20-P With Possible Minting Error

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 Posted 02/05/2018  10:32 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add GT237 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all. First post as curious about a 20p I found in my till one day.

Have been collecting some of the rarer coins for a while as a lot of coins pass through my hands every day and have a couple of Kew Garden 50ps and lots of £2 coins.

Is it possible that this is an error which made it into circulation or has someone just filed away at it? From looking at it it almost looks like th indents are negatives of the curves on the other sides. There doesn't appear to be any tool marks on it. Will try and get better pictures at some point.
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 Posted 02/05/2018  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like deliberate damage to me.



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There is a coin error called a clipped planchet, but I dont think you have one here. I suspect you have somebody's attempt to make a bogus error coin possibly with a view to selling it on ebay.

Clipped blanks ( or planchets ) happen when the sheet of metal is fed through the blank-cutting machine slightly too slowly, so when the cutter comes down it overlaps slightly with the previous hole. This creates a blank with a piece missing. When the blank has the design pressed on it, there is insufficient metal to fill the die.

With the genuine clipped blanks I have I note three things which usually appear which your coin does not appear to have.
Firstly, the hole should match part of another coin. On your coin the gap near the Queen's forehead does not look the right shape. Try fitting another 20p into it.
Secondly, the cut is very crisp on a genuine error. Your cut looks slightly chamfered.
Thirdly, there is usually a slight weakening of definition of the design around the edge of the cut. This is because the metal flows slightly sideways into the gap rather than into the design of the die. On your coin, the definition of the design is crisp right up to the edge of the cut. This is why I think you have a fake error.

I am no expert in this, and would love to hear an expert give their view, particularly with an explanation.



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Here is one of mine. Note how the dots "fade" slightly around the cut. Also note the fading of the design on the edge directly opposite the cut. IMO these are signs of a genuine clipped planchet.
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