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United States
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I saw this one floating around on ebay:   Thoughts on authenticity? And would it straight grade or would it be a "details" coin? |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Real, 1794-1797 cap and pole type, can't tell which head type, minimal collector value -- would not straight grade or grade at all since it cannot be conclusively identified as to a date.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Pillar of the Community
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I don't know if there is a grade low enough for that one!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
8715 Posts |
Basal state unless the date can be identified.
I don't know how it couldn't be authentic.
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Valued Member
 United States
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Basal state unless the date can be identified. Well I had originally thought it could be determined as a 1794 Half Cent due to the large head, which was a one year type. But now that I look at it a bit more thoroughly, I'm not quite sure anymore which type of head it is. It almost looks like something in between the large and small versions - there simply isn't enough detail left to tell. In that case, I'll probably pass on this one. |
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I'll probably pass on this one. I agree--you can do better than this one. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yes, for sure pass on this one.  |
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United States
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OK, so I found another one from the same seller that I'm considering. This one is a Liberty Cap Right, No Pole Half Cent, that can be conclusively dated to 1795 even though the date is not visible. It looks to me like an honest Poor-1, with no major problems other than excessive wear. The price is solidly within my budget. Any thoughts on whether this coin would grade straight?   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The first coin is definitely a 1794. The variety might be able to be determined by what appears to be a die break arc in the right obverse field. What prices are you looking at here for these coins? We might be able to help guide you on value...
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United States
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The first coin is definitely a 1794. The variety might be able to be determined by what appears to be a die break arc in the right obverse field. What prices are you looking at here for these coins? We might be able to help guide you on value... The first one is being offered for 70 dollars. I have been trying to look through past auction results to determine a reasonable price, though it is tough to do for such a low grade piece. The best I could find were a few Poor-1 and Fair-2 coins that sold for around 200 dollars. The second one is being offered for 90, which seems about right for a Poor-1. |
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United States
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If you have more patience, you should be able to find one for a couple hundred in a details holder that has far more detail than the ones you are proposing. I don't think you will be happy with hunk of ugly copper that you can barely make out any details on.
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The best I could find were a few Poor-1 and Fair-2 coins that sold for around 200 dollars. With these lowballs I think you would be better off finding one in a vg to f details holder. You will get better device details and be prouder of the coin. Finding these in the $150 - $200 range is doable. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If I were a counterfeiter, would I really want to be making fakes in poor condition? Wouldn't it be more cost-effective to be making attractive coins?
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02/05/2018 10:26 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I see a lot of posts like this. Please ask yourself: Why WOULDNT this be authentic? There is absolutely no reason to fake a coin that looks like this.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Keep looking! |
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United States
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In my opinion, don't buy either. Buy one that may be details, but at least AG. Not PO or FR.
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Posted 02/05/2018 8:32 pm
