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Does Anyone Know Who Is On This Roman Coin?

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thanks to all in advance- you are awesome!
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Looks a little like Pete Townsend?

Sorry, I don't know ancients. But there are plenty of folks here who can tell you.
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Julian II as Caesar under Constantius II.
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Looks a little like Pete Townsend?
Maybe-Keithus Moonus succeeded him :)

no seriously, Any help
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A search on Forum's Roman Coin Legend Search for DNIVL*CAES (that much I think can see on the OP coin) brings up just one result: Julian II "the Apostate."

So perhaps () it's similar to the linked coins below, except the obverse legend is DN IVLIAN VS NOB CAES (CAES rather than the C on these)

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=31208
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=547960

Edit: Finn got to it while I took my sweet time typing...
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The legend is pretty clear.
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it might be Julian II but it seems liek the hairline and hairstyle differ on wildwinds to this coin
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I'll take it a step further.

Aquileia mint - RIC VIII 232

Mint mark: star AQT palm branch
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do you mean this one Biancasdad?

223?

Again, links to Wildwinds does not work.
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Hmmmm, actually I misread the spread sheets.

There is no "M" behind the bust so this can't be Aquileia. It can only be Siscia.

Mint mark off flan must read SIS

Only 3 possibilities would be RIC 368, 370, or 373
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The style looks wrong for Siscia.
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Hi Martin.

I don't have the written RIC for this volume. The spread sheets only show this obverse legend without any breaks (M in field) for Siscia.

Can't seem to find any other option without having the book in front of me.
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its strange. I cant find any Julian II coins online to match this one the hairstyle, hairline and shape of the head is so different.

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You will find a number of them here. https://www.coinarchives.com/a/resu...ch=Julian+II
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The style seems more consistent with Thessalonica to my eyes.

Here is one from my collectionfor comparison.

Julian II - AE3

Obv:- D N CL IVLIANVS NOB CAES, Bare headed draped and cuirassed bust right
Rev:- FEL TEMP REPARATIO, Soldier spears a horseman on left, clutching the neck of the horse
Minted in Thessalonica (M | _ // SMTSE)
Reference(s) - RIC VIII Thessalonica 212 (S)

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Some other mints of mine for style comparison.

Alexandria
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Arles
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Lugdunum
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Rome
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Siscia
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Martin
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In this point in history, the portrait was little more than state propaganda, not an attempt at a lifelike portrait. The Caesar was to be portrayed without the imperial diadem, and was to look younger, as the heir apparent. Julian's cousin, Constantius Gallus, forgot this and was killed for it.

After a brief butting of heads against Constantius II, the latter died and Julian became the Emperor. It was then that he "came out" as a pagan, and started taking steps to dismantle Constantine's corrupt bureaucracy and restore Rome to the Principate; the emperor being "First among equals". That's when he opened the can of Insta-Beard on his coinage, which he probably had the whole time. He was the single last truly promising emperor, right up until he took a spear through his abdomen in his Persian campaign.
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