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Removing A Graded Coin From A Slabbed Holder

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The coin too is of some importance. If it is a coin of low value, makes little difference if slabbed or not. By this I mean I see so many coins in slabs not worth the cost of having them slabbed so may as well just take it out.

I've seen one too many of those of late. I've seen coins with a 10 cent numismatic value in slabs recently! What the?
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Funny - Someone just told me today that, if I want to make sure I am getting non-problem coins for my type album, I should buy them slabbed, crack the slabs open & put them in my type album.

That is HORRIBLE advice. If you're going to be buying coins for an album, then the LAST thing you want to is get slabbed coins. Ugh. I hate it when people give that kind of advice!


What's so bad about that advice? It depends on the coin and the album being put together.
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I was looking for a 1921 Mercury dime for a CAPS album I'm putting together. I can only afford this in low grade. Locally, I was finding coins in AG to G grades for $60 to $80. Found a 21 in an ANACS slab on an auction site that I purchased for less than $30 with fees! Cracked that out of the slab lickety split and put it in the CAPS. Now I know it is a genuine 21 at about half the price of raw. A long way of saying sometimes it makes sense to crack a coin from a slab.
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@88isgreat, you got a good deal, but I don't see that it demonstrates that cracking a coin from the slab was a good thing (or a bad thing). It was a good deal that happened to be in a slab. It was the same coin and deal before you cracked it.
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@oriole what you say is very true. Because of the deal I felt comfortable cracking the coin from the slab. I did not keep the label because I realize it was of no value once the coin was removed from the slab.



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I've cracked some more expensive coins for my type set album. For example, I don't want to buy a raw Seated Liberty dollar as the nicer ones are in slabs. However, I'll purchase a TPG graded one so I can have a complete album. One was a CAC stickered coin and I don't regret it!

One of the OP's original questions is whether a coin's value negatively affected by taking it out of it's professionally graded holder. The answer is generally 'yes' but there are circumstances when that may or not be true (an undergraded coin for example or one with a details grade that may grade straight based on today's grading standards.) there is no clear cut answer and it's a case by case basis.
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If you're going to be buying coins for an album, then the LAST thing you want to is get slabbed coins.



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...sometimes it makes sense to crack a coin from a slab.


I bought this coin with the intention of unslabbing it and putting it into my type album. Now I'm not sure...


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I bought this coin with the intention of unslabbing it and putting it into my type album. Now I'm not sure...
Crack it.
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Crack it.


Yeah, my heirs can send it to PCGS again to be re-graded in 30 years or so!
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You would be dead, what do you care?

Coins are to enjoy now, not make your heirs rich later.
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Coins are to enjoy now, not make your heirs rich later.

Very well expressed. My feelings exactly, but I have never heard it expressed so simply and succinctly.
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Thank you.

I also feel that if my heirs do not appreciate the sentimental value or do not make an effort to research anything before selling then they deserve what they (do not) get. Hopefully the buyer will appreciate them, if only for the deal they got.

Again, I am dead and would not be affected.
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Right, for my heirs it will all just be like "found money". If they can't "find" it all that's not my problem. Like you said, I'd be dead and I won't care.
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I have cracked many coins out of slabs to fill my CAPS albums.

I usually do it when I find a great deal on a slabbed coin that I need. I think that many people send off their coins in "hope" of getting a high rating, but then when it comes back without the desired rating, it gets sold off on the secondary markets (ebay, coin shows, etc). When I go to shows or my LCS, I am more then happy to make a "reasonable offer" to the dealers to take these off their hands, crack them out, and put them in my nice album.

For example, when I was putting together my " Presidential dollars" set and my " State Quarters set", I was often able to find better quality "Slabbed Coins" that were often as cheap as getting them "Raw", especially if I bought a "lot" of them (several at once).

It is also a nice way to avoid getting "problem coins' for my collection. For example, Peace dollars are often "cleaned" which I want to avoid. I am not an "expert" to detect anything except very obvious cleaning so if I find a nice Peace dollar in a holder with a nice rating, I at least know it's not cleaned and will be a nice addition to my album. Yes, I try to 'buy the coin not the holder', but the holder certainly reduces the risk for me and I know they are grading "reasonably well" and "genuine". If it says it is a MS63, it is probably pretty darn close.

But I agree that once you crack it out of the holder, you have lost your 'proof' of the grading, and if I was buying on ebay, there is no way to ensure that "cracked out coin" you are seeing was actually in the holder they are showing. could have been swapped, and you lose the whole idea of the "guarantee" of the holder.

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I usually ask myself if the slab helps the coin or not. If the coin will stand on its own or maybe be at a higher grade outside the slab, then I'll crack it. I've cracked out a bunch of AU-58 coins when there is clearly no chance it would sell as anything other than a slider unc, as how is the holder helping? Also, details coins can be discounted for the details but the slab really hurts the marketability of them, so cracking them out is better for all concerned.
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