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1882 Large Cent Varieties

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 Posted 06/16/2019  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Rob: Sorry guys .. I was going with a 73 year old memory without looking at the coins. I confused (from memory) the 3 types of the 2/1's with the 3 types of '76 full (RP'd) T's. The type 2 1882 2/1 (as Dan and I called them) was not in the book and it had the doubled denticles and RP'ing in Canada, but nothing like the type 3 with the heavy punch doubling. I really haven't looked at my coins in nearly 2 years and the memory has blips. Since I have to quit golf awaiting the spinal surgery, I'll have to get back to looking at what I have again and catch up my inventory list with notes. Sorry I led you guys on a goose chase, but it finally made me look at some coins again. I have 3 each of the 2 types of 2/1's (Ty 2&3)with RP'ing and 7 of the type 1 that has no doubling
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 Posted 12/21/2021  10:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I finally sent PCGS my second 1882 slightly doubled letters and doubled denticles for a grade its a little different than the first one I sent in for grading.

I'll post both coins for your viewing and thoughts on them.

The one graded AU-58 has noticeable doubling in Regina as well as Canada with double denticles Canada-Victoria. The AU-50 has doubling in Canada and double denticles Canada-Victoria.

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 Posted 12/21/2021  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Phil310 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice coins papeldog!

I think this die is just about as hard to find as the one with heavier doubling.
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To me, these 2 coins are from different dies, with very slightly different repunching and definite differences in the denticle doubling between Canada and Vicky as to offset. Maybe the amount of shifting during the MD caused these two coins to look a little different .. or maybe they are 2 different dies. We discussed these alot a few years ago and kinda tossed our hands up. Remember that this 2/1 die started out as an 1876 Obv and the dies had multiple whacks with a hammer and punch. When you have multiple handpunching of letters combined with who knows how much movement of the die on some of the actual strike due to Machine Doubling, it's going to be impossible to track down firmly. The 82's are a story unto themselves concerning the number of actual dies used throughout the mintage year.. 1's, 1a's, 1a/1's, 2/1's, 2/1a's and 2's, with and without repaired T's and N's. I won't even mention any hub-doubling.
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 Posted 12/21/2021  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If they get back to coin shows in the future Okie I'll try and make one back East.
I'll bring both coins if you have your show and tell lounge party for you and others that might be there to look at and study. The AU-55 was one from you.
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Well, that's strange because I seldom pick up or collect anything that's close to bright and shiny, if you get my drift.

I never thought about how old this thread is and how technical that we got in hammering things out. Jim, you've opened up a can of worms again.
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I just find variety collecting fascinating especially in the years 1859, 1881, 1882 of Canadian large cents so many varieties, a person could spend their whole life studying them and maybe never find everything.

Phil310: I think they are easier to identify in the higher grades I've been lucky
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Yes, I think that you, Rob, Dan, Gene, Randy, Tim and Houndog all feel the same about the early Vicky cents. It's what has kept us all reasonably young
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...a person could spend their whole life studying them and maybe never find everything.


A person can spend their whole lifetime searching for an 1881 Single Serif N and not find one... As far as I know, Bill and myself are the only persons who have found two examples each.
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Yes SPP you + Bill are lucky to have found 2 of the 1881 SSN's I consider myself very lucky to have found 1. I think its one of the hardest Canadian large cent varieties to find in any condition.

I'd also credit you with 2 + 1/3 1881 SSN's.
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