1882 Large Cent Varieties

Rob: Do you think that the '82 DDO that you showed and referenced to JIm (the one with the doubled denticles)could have been the same die as the 1876 type 2 (with the R/P'd T) that has the same doubled denticles in the same spot. They reused 1876 Obv 1 dies in both '81 & 82. I always thought it strange that the 2/1 '82 had the same doubled denticles as the 1876 Ty 2 scarcity.

Yes, but ALL the old 1876 Obv dies were repunched in '81 & '82 to make the single serifs double. And the Type 2 1876 "R/P'd T" has the same doubled denticles and R/P's letters as the 1882 2/1 (A's & N) or nearly so.

Just thought this may help?


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1881 Die 1
note the apostrophe between N'A



1882 Die 1
note the apostrophe between N'A

I finally sent PCGS my second 1882 slightly doubled letters and doubled denticles for a grade its a little different than the first one I sent in for grading.

I'll post both coins for your viewing and thoughts on them.

The one graded AU-58 has noticeable doubling in Regina as well as Canada with double denticles Canada-Victoria. The AU-50 has doubling in Canada and double denticles Canada-Victoria.

AU-50
AU-58

To me, these 2 coins are from different dies, with very slightly different repunching and definite differences in the denticle doubling between Canada and Vicky as to offset. Maybe the amount of shifting during the MD caused these two coins to look a little different .. or maybe they are 2 different dies. We discussed these alot a few years ago and kinda tossed our hands up. Remember that this 2/1 die started out as an 1876 Obv and the dies had multiple whacks with a hammer and punch. When you have multiple handpunching of letters combined with who knows how much movement of the die on some of the actual strike due to Machine Doubling, it's going to be impossible to track down firmly. The 82's are a story unto themselves concerning the number of actual dies used throughout the mintage year.. 1's, 1a's, 1a/1's, 2/1's, 2/1a's and 2's, with and without repaired T's and N's. I won't even mention any hub-doubling.

Well, that's strange because I seldom pick up or collect anything that's close to bright and shiny, if you get my drift.

I never thought about how old this thread is and how technical that we got in hammering things out. Jim, you've opened up a can of worms again.

Yes, I think that you, Rob, Dan, Gene, Randy, Tim and Houndog all feel the same about the early Vicky cents. It's what has kept us all reasonably young

Yes SPP you + Bill are lucky to have found 2 of the 1881 SSN's I consider myself very lucky to have found 1. I think its one of the hardest Canadian large cent varieties to find in any condition.

I'd also credit you with 2 + 1/3 1881 SSN's.