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Web Note Missing Overprint Error + Link To Web Overprint Error Census

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Since my tablet died, and seldom on the laptop, been spending most of my time that used to be here on CCF, on Facebook Groups, it was time to get back online and catch up on some posts here.

Having just posted my Census on Web-Press Overprint Errors in the World Currency Forum in hopes of locating additional error notes, anyone interested can check it out at;

http://goccf.com/t/308621

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Just when you think you learned all there is to know when it comes to Error Notes printed on the Alexander Hamilton Web Press, out of the blue I receive a message awhile back from SteveInTampa on him locating & purchasing a series 1993 Web "Printed Fold" error.

To my knowledge, this is the only Web Overprint Error I've seen printed for the entire 1993 series.

Shortly thereafter, I locate a PMG Certified "Insufficient Inking" error on ebay that caught my attention.

This was on a series 1988A Web Note, and with the insane number of FAKE error notes listed as genuine Insufficient Inking Errors on ebay,
along with my past negative experience with PMG when it comes to them describing Currency Errors,
I avoided any interest in this Note.

This was until receiving a ebay reminder the listing was nearing it's end. I then revisited this again, this time with my Web Handbook, and carefully comparing the Note with the Plate Photo.

It was in the last 2 minutes or so that I decided since it was from the "G" Block, and with the 5/8 Plate Combo, it was worth the gamble.

Surprised I was high bidder at half my maximum bid, I was then focusing on the positive side (as I already had the G-P Block overprint on back error), and thinking about different ways to test this for any signs of alteration outside the BEP.

Upon receiving this, and removing it from its holder, I scanned some Web Notes from series 1988A, and printed out serial numbers 0-9 (3rd picture below) for side by side comparison during test mode.

I had taken over a hundred photos under multiple lighting sources and different angles. I must have printed out a few dozen photos as some photos would reveal One Digit at a time.

This was time consuming to say the least, and surprised the printed copy doesn't show the numbers as clear as the higher resolution photos on the laptop, I'm 99% positive I have the correct serial number printed on the sheet above this one.

Now I know there are 15 other examples out there somewhere, and how many of the 15 entered circulation is anyone's guess (but this is a genuine error to cherry pick), and from the same Run 8 as the overprint on back error.

I've tried contacting Bob Kvederas Jr. to exchange data on new information since publishing his 2004 Handbook.


[crickets]


How great would that be if the Kvederas Guys published a New Updated Edition, if for no other reason that many of todays young collectors have zero idea of what a "Web-Note" is, and how rare they are.



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Web Inverted Overprint Errors

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Since the hassle with PMG on my Pakistan Errors, I decided to use my leftover Museum Quality Archive Holders from when collecting Colonial Ephemera on these 2 Web Inverts.
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The pictures here do no justice compared to viewing in hand.
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Great notification with wonderful details. Thanks for sharing all of that. I count you as my "I learned something new today" thread.
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Very interesting and information. Thank you for sharing.
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What an amazing collection of error notes. Outstanding!
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Not sure I understood everything but those notes are outstanding! The all 4's web note is amazing. Has to be one-of-a-kind.
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Most impressive for sure!
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The Solid 4's Web was out of my comfort zone, and when my maximum bid on a Web Inverted Overprint error from the same seller was outbid a few minutes before auctions end, and this being the first Web Solid serial numbers note I've seen since becoming a member in June 1997, I was able to purchase it for $870. (what my maximum bid for the Inverted Overprint was) and should retail for $2,500. in the Web Press Handbook.

Robert Azpiazu lists only 1 Solid serial number note the Web series, a 1993 from the C-A Block.

When I found no Solids were listed for series 1995 $1 FRN's, I emailed a photo to Mr. Azpiazu & received a reply that this is the 2nd Web Solid confirmed.
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Nice research and information Vernon.

Do you track all WEB errors, or just overprint errors ?




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I think the $2,500 est is conservative, Broken-Coin. I've seen solid 8-digits going for more (and not on ebay) and they weren't even the rarer web types.
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Do you track all WEB errors, or just overprint errors?


I track all Web Overprint Errors & insert laminated copies of my Web errors & Census Results in my copy of the Handbook.

I just printed out a 4x6 copy of your note to include in my book.

Unless more are out there, yours is only the 2nd confirmed example, with the first being the Plate Photo on page 116, a series 1995 S/N B38260852H.

If this were my note, I would do the same as I did with this PCGS Certified Note and include a laminated copy of it unfolded with the certified copy.

When it comes to Error Notes, I have no problem removing them from the holder.


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Broken-Coin I was looking through the upcoming Lyn Knight PCDA auction catalog I received in the mail and came across a lot that mentioned a Web note error.

I thought of your thread and hoped I remembered until I could get here to post.

Lot #15717 in Session 2 (in case the link breaks or is faulty)

http://www.lynknight.com/items/1100...Bsort_by%5D=

Not sure if you track non error Web notes or not-- Lot # 15788 is for a pack of 100 Series 1995 Web notes from Boston.

-MV
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Many thanks, this is the 6th Confirmed example from Sheet #120231.

Since 3 consecutive Inverted overprint errors were in each Original 100 Note Bank Pack, this also confirms Inverted errors for sheets #120232 & 120233 also entered circulation.

Don't be surprised if you see serial # A85320231F listed by Executive Currency in the near future for $3,495 ~ (just sayin)
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