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Cent Blank Found This Week In Box From Local Bank

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Found this on in a box from local bank. Not sure I got the picture acclimated correctly!
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Incredible find! That's something that I have never found in bankrolls yet.
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Good enough. Nice find!
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You deserved a blank. Wonderful fun.
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Looks sideways to me
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Nice find indeed.

I offer the following information with the opportunity for the true experts to correct me:

There are two types of blank planchets ... known (of course) as Type 1 and Type 2.

Type 1 planchets have flat rims ... they have not been processed through the machine that raises the rim

Type 2 have fully formed rims ... as it appears by photo that your blank planchet has.

Sooo ... congratulations on your type 2 blank planchet ... appears to be a Lincoln Cent?
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There are no type one planchets. They are still called blanks at that point.

Only after they run through the upset mill, are they called planchets.
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Correct me if I'm wrong please. It's my understanding the blank goes in the Upsetting Mill where the perimeter is made thicker. It receives the rim at the strike.
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Correct. The rim is made thicker on that area by the reduction of the width slightly. When the coin is struck the rim area is formed by the outside filling of the die. All done by the strike.
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The proto rim assists this. When a blank is struck the rim area is not as full. Thus the setup process assists this.
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Thanks Coop.
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Adding more confusion food for thought. NGC has used the terms type 1 and 2 in reference to blanks only.

Type 1 blank comes straight from the blanking press. Type 2 blank is a type 1 blank that has been through annealing and cleaning process.

After going through the upset machine its referred to as a planchet. NGC references "The formation of the rims takes place in the upsetting machine", but like most I prefer to call it the proto rim because its not to be confused with the design rim at this stage.

https://www.NGCcoin.com/news/article/328/
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I read an article a while back about the proto rim produced during the upset process as not being a needed step to create a coin with a rim. So why is it used?

Having the proto rim not only aids in the design rim development, but reduces the amount of force needed to create the design rim during the strike. This makes for a faster cycle time with less stress on the machine.

In the end a faster cycle time with less pressure increases production rates with less stress on the machinery. The product, which happens to be coins get out the door faster with less downtime on the machines. Thanks, Doug.
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The formation of the rims takes place in the upsetting machine.

That can also be stated "The formation of the perimeter, or proto-rim takes place in the upsetting machine." It's a graduated thickening that not only enhances the rim, but also the perimeter devices.
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