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Valued Member
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@pirgah, I'm concerned about the apparent roughness and porostity on the fields of the second piece. Can you please show a couple views of the edge?
In terms of the cleaning of ancient coins, I would wager that there are virtually zero coins that have been around for 2000ish years that have never been cleaned.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Second coin is an obvious cast counterfeit !
First coin is a less obvious cast counterfeit !
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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In the first instance, the flan seems to be to be too perfectly round, and while the second coin is a bit less so in this regard, in neither case do you see the kind of edge irregularities and cracks that struck ancients so typically exhibit. That makes me immediately suspicious that these are reproductions.
Colligo ergo sum
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm going to respectfully disagree with my coin brethren regarding coin #1. I lean toward that one being kosher. These issues of Hieronymos (Syracuse, Sicily) are often close to perfectly round. Both shape and fabric here are consistent with legit coins. Furthermore, I'm spotting a number of die matches. (Although I recognize it could be a cast taken from a good coin) Some comparisons of the OP coin with some spotted online, below. Note, among other details, the break in the rhythm of the dotted border on the obverse at 1:00:   Edited by Kamnaskires
02/17/2018 08:51 am
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Pillar of the Community
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I agree for the second coin . For the first , I have many doubts .Here a coin with the same MI above the thunderbolt . Comparing the two thunderbolts I miss the dots between the lines : such details are very difficult to reproduce by casting .albert  |
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Valued Member
 Brazil
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Does the catalog reference for Hyeronimus coin is: HGC 2, 1567?
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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I have SNGAns 1025 or Holloway6 . albert
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United States
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I agree the second coin is a fake. My impression on the on the first coin is genuine, but the reverse concerns me. The lettering especially on the bottom of the coin looks like what I would expect to see on a cast fake. If you can take a picture of the edge of the coin it would help to say one way or the other.
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Valued Member
Brazil
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I canīt take pictures of the edge of the coin because itīs an auction coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Coin #1 at 2 o'clock position on reverse pic
This is point at which sprue
was attached
was removed
was carefully filed away
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