| Author |
 Replies: 9 / Views: 1,290 |
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
3327 Posts |
I was on Wexler's site today and ran across this new UFO listing (2017P WUFO-001). The image is from Wexler's site (hope it's OK to pull photos from his site?):  (image from doubleddie.com) Any thoughts as to how this happened? His theory is that it is either a tilted hub or an attempt to remove a clash. "Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
|
|
|
|
Rest in Peace
10197 Posts |
I would think a tilted hub would place more bars onto the banner than just the one, #2 & #3 would show unless polished off and that would show in that attempt. A clash, even taking into account the slight rotational differences between a direct overlay and an actual clash (less than 1% rotation per distance traveled to dies touching) is no where near the first bar. Neither seems even plausible to me. I would more say a CNC program glitch in the cutting of a hub. That design is perpendicular extending onto the ribbon, also note the small portion of shield edge at the lower left. All this is more part of a design flaw, not hubbings.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
4406 Posts |
Definitely not a DDR. Since that stripe would be incuse on the coin, this could be caused by excessive die polishing. (Caused by the same thing die trails are caused by) This makes even more sense considering strong die clashes would have marks in the third stripe right next to where this anomaly is found. Excessive die polishing to remove a die clash making an effect similar to a die trail but confined to a small area. |
|
Pillar of the Community
 United States
3327 Posts |
Thank you both for the insights. It's also interesting how abraded the fields look. I think there was some major work done on this die.
"Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
Edited by Bump111
02/22/2018 8:09 pm
|
|
Rest in Peace
10197 Posts |
I revisited this, by increasing the size, thankfully good res on pix, can see it is a die polishing production. Looking at YELLOW, there is a definite dip in the area of the ribbon as it hits the side of the anomaly and RED show a lack of shadow indicating a loss of thickness at this area. Looking at the GREEN all the "tapering" has been done using the upper left corner as a starting point. The shield and ribbon have both been tapered to make all the angles match, it fools the eye as to depth.  |
|
Valued Member
United States
237 Posts |
I love the insight on this find. I am the discover of the 2017p wufo-001 and has anyone else found any of these? and what would be there worth?
|
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
74906 Posts |
I haven't found one of these yet.
Errers and Varietys.
|
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
62064 Posts |
The higher the devices are on a coin, the deeper they are on the die. So extreme localized die polishing can make events like this happen. So if the whole die would have been polished off evenly like this example, all you would probably see is weak set of ONE CENTand the shield stripes on the whole reverse of the die.
Edited by coop
07/21/2018 11:30 pm
|
|
Valued Member
United States
237 Posts |
Do you think that this could ever be a coin that would be published in the Cherry Pickers Guide considering it would be a variety? And what are the thoughts on getting the 15 that I have found graded what would the cost be thank you in advance. |
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
62064 Posts |
CPG just lists the best varieties. Most of the time just the top two. (1972 top 9) But they are the only ones that PCGS usually considers for numbering. (You have to pay more for other numbers)
But the issue is a die event. I would save it for now to see if someone else lists it. But so far just an altered die.
|
| |
Replies: 9 / Views: 1,290 |
|
Posted 02/22/2018 5:46 pm
