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Kennedy Missing Star And D Smashed?

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 Posted 06/04/2008  11:29 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mikep to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Does anyone know what could've happened to this coin? Smashed mint mark and star on reverse below s missing.

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 Posted 06/04/2008  11:41 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a strike thru. meaning something was either on the planchet or the die and it didn't get the full impression of the design. as far as the star I'd say it's gre ASE
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 Posted 06/04/2008  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

No, That wouldn't be it.

Note that the depression on the obverse lines up perfectly with the missing star on the reverse.

It is most likely that the coin was placed on a hard flat surface and was struck with a punch of some sort. It could have even been a nail, for example.

It would make a depression on the obverse and obliterate the star on the reverse.

It was probably done outside of the Mint.

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 Posted 06/04/2008  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hmmmm....good point. I dind't think about the 2 areas being done at the same time on opposite sides
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 Posted 06/05/2008  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seattleMD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Er, why would that destroy the star on the reverse - wouldn't that just push the metal underneath the star out creating a bump, but leaving the star in tact? I guess if you put something equally hard just larger than the star behind the coin and THEN struck it on the obverse, that would flatted out the star...
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 Posted 06/05/2008  12:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Seattle MD, you actually answered your own question:-)

If, for example, the coin was placed on a piece of heavy leather before being hit with a punch, the star might remain unaffected on the reverse.

On a hard surface, the star would be flattened if the coin was hit from the obverse.

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 Posted 06/05/2008  01:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikep to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it was struck with a punch, wouldn't the shape be deformed? It's perfectly flat. And the surrounding area of the star show no problems.
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 Posted 06/05/2008  01:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikep to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also, the indentation on the front isn't shaped like a round. When magnified, it has sharp edges.
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Thats the clincher. The sharp edges were caused by whatever metal punched was used. And no, if the coin were on a hard , flat surface and a punch or nail was used to hammer the coin, only the spot directly opposite the punch would be affected. Thats why there is a depression on the obverse and a flat spot on the reverse.

Try it yourself. take a cent or a quarter, a hammer and a nail, lay the cent (or quarter) on an anvil or the flat part of a vice. Take a whack at it. If the whack was true and you didn't bounce the hammer during the strike, you will see a depression on the front and a flat spot on the back. (Unless you hit it so hard that you make a hole)

Also, many nail tips are not round but squared.

Still sounds like a nail was used as a punch on the coin.

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Bill
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