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Which Should I Get? Princess Or King?

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 Posted 06/09/2008  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bilbo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I voted "Princess."

It's probably not the best economic choice (investment), but I'd get the "valuable because it's rare" $3 gold instead of the "valuable because it's popular" 09-Svdb.

There were about the same number of 09-Svdb cents minted as all dates and mint marks of $3 gold pieces combined.
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 Posted 06/09/2008  10:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did not vote with $1600.00 I would find away to get both. Where there a will there away
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There is no 22 P. The 22 no d which is a 22 d with a very worn die.

-SFWUSC


Thanks SFWUSC. I am aware of this. I put P to stand for Plain, as it is labeled 1922 Plain in my Dansco....but I will clarify from now on to avoid confusion.

As for purchasing both, I have thought about this. I am sure that I could, but each of the coins would suffer in quality in order to fit both in my budget. I am happy with a lower grade 09-s vdb, but would prefer a higher grade princess....at least EF or so.

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 Posted 06/10/2008  12:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does this vdb look cleaned? There are some parallel lines on the front, but I can't tell if it is cleaning, or on the case, or that woodgrain texture that some lincolns possess. Lincoln experts comment please.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...WA:IT&ih=016

Also, what do you think of this one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...WA:IT&ih=018

thanks.
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 Posted 06/10/2008  04:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You have to go with the $3 dollar coin! How many people can say that they have one? Not too many. With the 1909-S...it's more common in the sense that you can go pick one up at most shows. I hardly ever see any $3 gold. Plus if you have a dansco, then your already filling a hole. After all that trouble you went through with the fake $3, I though for sure you would be hunting for it. Personally, I think that $3 is better because: uncommon denomination that doesn't exist anymore, it looks better than lincoln, it's older, lower mintage and it's gold. Unless you really plan on actively collecting the series, I don't see the purpose in spending that much money.

$1600 budget?
http://cgi.ebay.com/1854-3-00-GOLD-...45_W0QQitemZ200229126302QQihZ010QQcategoryZ39468QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-1854-3-gol...50_W0QQitemZ360000287500QQihZ023QQcategoryZ39468QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/1878-3-Gold-PCG...50_W0QQitemZ280200611492QQihZ018QQcategoryZ39468QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/1854-Indian-3-0...pe_W0QQitemZ330238814254QQihZ014QQcategoryZ39468QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/1856-3-Gold-PCG...te_W0QQitemZ280195215649QQihZ018QQcategoryZ39468QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

You might be able to take time down with the last three.

I guess go with with one is going to make you happy overall. Now I need to go back and finish studying!
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 Posted 06/10/2008  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks Amazon. Yes, I really would like to get a nice $3 gold, especially since I purchased a fake and agree with you on all you have said. It is a very tough choice for me as I am also actively a lincoln collector and really only need the vdb to fill the hole in my set. The three dollar gold I want for basically all the reasons that you said. The main thing the Lincoln has going for it is the consistant high demand, and the fact that once I get it, I will have a complete wheatback set.

Here is the $3 gold that I may go for, because I believe it is the best bang for buck given no one bids on it. The seller posted this up several weeks ago, and nobody bid; so if I elect the $3 route, this will probably be the one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1878-3-INDIAN-G...in_W0QQitemZ180251238593QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item180251238593&_trkparms=72:552%7C39:1%7C65:12&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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 Posted 06/10/2008  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you do get one, go for a rarer date. Might take awhile to find one, but too many on there are 1854 or 1878.
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 Posted 06/10/2008  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BobK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I voted for the 1909 SVDB, reasoning as follows. It's likely that whichever one you choose, in the months or years ahead you'll have the means to buy the other one. Given the popularity of Lincolns and the expected increase in demand, the SVDB is probably going to appreciate in price much more than the $3 gold pieces. So if you buy the King now and the Princess later, you'll probably end up spending less altogether than if you bought the Princess now and the King later.
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 Posted 06/10/2008  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the $3 gold that I may go for, because I believe it is the best bang for buck given no one bids on it. The seller posted this up several weeks ago, and nobody bid; so if I elect the $3 route, this will probably be the one.

That is at the high end pricewise, the seller doesn't have very good pics, plus it's on ebay. Pass! Heritage has about 80 of them for sale, have you looked over there?
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Those pictures are kinda hard to see. Did you ask the seller for better pictures? I agree with hadley dog, look at heritage. I looked quickly at their auction archieves and they've sold a bunch recently for under $1600. In fact, they even sold some problem free ones for $800. You might be able to buy both if your willing to sacrifice them for lower grades that way. Problem solved.
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You might be able to buy both if your willing to sacrifice them for lower grades that way. Problem solved

Well......THAT'S the smartest thing said in this WHOLE thread !!.....An idea to accomplish BOTH !~!........DO IT MAN !
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 Posted 06/10/2008  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cheungsta to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Even though I'm a huge fan of gold, I voted for the 09SVDB...since it will complete your set, that is huge IMHO. So I say get that one first

And with the gold market as volatile as it has been recently, you might get lucky and find a nice Princess when the spot price is low and get yourself a good deal on that one too

Good luck with the purchase, whichever way you end up going!
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 Posted 06/11/2008  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well folks, the 09-s vdb won out. It was a tough call, but I weighed the pros and cons(some of which you guys pointed out), and went with the vdb. I was way under budget, though it wasn't any kind of great deal. Here are the pros:

-A higher grade vdb is generally less expensive than an equivalent common $3 gold at this time(they are very close though).

-Once the 2009 cent comes out, it is possible(definitely not a sure thing) that key Lincoln coins will be much more expensive.(I wish I had bought this coin years ago, don't we all).

-I now will have a complete set(minus the errors 55ddo and 22plain).

The seller has perfect feedback and a great return policy(no restocking fees). I had considered buying both, but would rather wait and buy higher end pieces of each when I can afford it. If I was to buy both, I would probably be pushing my budget. I had considered heritage as I am a member, but I just use it as a resource. I read that you need to establish multiple dealer references to bid, and I live kind of out in the middle of nowhere. I'm already established on ebay.

I will post high end photos and more descriptors when I receive the coin, so we can analyze whether or not I should keep it. I dont want to bias you guys with pics without seeing the coin in hand first...:-P

thanks for all of your inputs!
John
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..................Yea !! Congrats !...good move IMHO !..
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