India Banknote Counterfeit/Fake Or Fortune

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ShareBear Valued Member Canada 499 Posts	Posted 03/10/2018 09:05 am The title of this post is named after a BBC TV show about paintings where the hosts try to determine whether the painting are really by the artists or not. There have been a number of India 200 Rupees and India 50 Rupees posted on ebay with wet trap printing errors. 2 Different sellers but both are from the same region in India. I believe that they are both the same person. I have purchased 3 of these notes and am trying to figure out if the error is real or not. The first one arrived yesterday. 1. The note is a real uncirculated India 200 Rupees. I can feel the raised Ink. The UV luminescence is all there. 2. I line up the transferred ink error portion with another note and the position of all of the ink transfer matches exactly. 3. There are 3 different colour ink transferred. The security device green, the brown of the face, and black from the lettering. 4. I cannot make out any ink jet dots. 5. The other 200 Rupees (which has not arrived yet but based on the ebay pictures) has exactly the same number of shift point on the face. This is suspect. 6. Missing H with the micro printed 200. Looks it is the same ink plate as the Hindi R200 and the Reserve Bank of India text so why did this not get transferred. The Serial Numbers are a different ink they are UV so they were printed on at a different time. Fake or Fortune give me your opinions. Edited by ShareBear 03/10/2018 09:12 am Report this Post to the Staff

paxbrit Pillar of the Community United States 992 Posts	Posted 03/11/2018 12:28 pm It looks genuine, although I believe, on no basis whatsoever, that these are purpose-made and are not 'errors'. Either that, or quality control is entirely non-existant at the Treasury. Report this Post to the Staff
ShareBear Valued Member Canada 499 Posts	Posted 03/11/2018 9:21 pm The latest series were rushed to meet demand right after the government demonetized the 500 and 1000 Rupees. Apparently 99% of outstanding notes were deposited back to the banks. Which was not expected. Report this Post to the Staff
augsburger Pillar of the Community Germany 1063 Posts	Posted 03/13/2018 09:07 am I went to India a few weeks back and they don't have the 1000 rupees, but new 500 and new 2000. I only saw one of these new 200 notes. The coins in India aren't good, the newer one. 2016 coins look like they're 20 years old, you can't read half the writing. So it wouldn't surprise me if the quality control for Indian banknotes isn't either A) bad or B) corrupt. Report this Post to the Staff
ShareBear Valued Member Canada 499 Posts	Posted 03/13/2018 6:48 pm I saw this cellphone video of the 50 Rupee notes and the 200 Rupee notes and now I am quite sure that my error note is real http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPj7ssWmo0E Report this Post to the Staff
lettow Pillar of the Community United States 742 Posts	Posted 03/16/2018 12:45 pm The video shows printing of play money not printing of actual money for the RBI. Report this Post to the Staff
ShareBear Valued Member Canada 499 Posts	Posted 03/16/2018 6:23 pm @lettow Not sure if you are being sarcastic. Those look like the new 200 Rupee and 50 Rupee notes with printing press, industrial scale cutters. Why would you saw it is play money? Report this Post to the Staff
lettow Pillar of the Community United States 742 Posts	Posted 03/17/2018 06:09 am I am not being sarcastic. There is a video by an Indian numismatist that explains what this video depicts. He points out that there are no serial numbers on the notes in the video and that the Hindi text on the notes says they are play money. Also, there are many videos from the RBI of the printing of the new notes. All of them show a much more sophisticated operation than uou see here. Report this Post to the Staff
ShareBear Valued Member Canada 499 Posts	Posted 03/18/2018 1:18 pm Yes, you are right. Looking at the video closer shows that the notes have no serial numbers. Report this Post to the Staff
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