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Two Ancient Coins - Help With Indentification Requested

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 Posted 03/11/2018  12:42 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add living-in-the-past to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I can usually muddle my way through attributing ancient coins, but these two have me stumped. The profile right coin is 29.3mm and 13.5g. The forward face coin is 29.9mm and 8.0g, possibly double struck. Any information about age, region, rarity, value, etc. would be greatly appreciated.
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 Posted 03/11/2018  2:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some kind of Turkoman figural bronzes. Not sure of the specifics either.

EDIT: that means they're probably from roughly modern Iraq, roughly 12th-13th centuries AD. More details in this thread.
There's a lot of types for those, though, and I don't know anything more specific about them.
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They look like coins from the Zangid dynasty...

Maybe a good place to start will be Mosul or Sinjar...Cities in Northeastern Iraq..

1st one looks like Nasir al-Din Artuq Arslan . AH 597-637 (AD 1200-1239)
but the style looks strange?

Paul
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I agree with Paul. Nice coins. Here is some general information about the dynasty. http://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingL...aAtabegs.htm
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Thank you very much. Through your suggestions I found the following link:

http://grifterrec.rasmir.com/islam/...rtuqid4.html

Both coins appear to be from the Artuqids of Mardin. The ruler appears to be Nasir al-Din Artuq Arslan (1201 - 1239 AD)

The 1st coin seem to be a variation of S/S 43 and the 2nd coin seems to be a dead ringer for S/S 47 (also appears to have been struck over an earlier coin).

I would have never been able to find this information without your help. Thank you!
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Nice coins, in great shape for the types. These are often riddled with bronze disease, verdigris, and other deposits. Yours are particularly nice, living-in-the-past.


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Through your suggestions I found the following


Yes, that's the late Tom Mallon's website. I believe his widow Nancie made the decision to keep the site active so that Tom's research would continue to help us. It really is a great resource.

Fyi, if you want to learn more about your coins, Wayne Sayles and William Spengler literally wrote the book: https://www.amazon.com/Turkoman-Fig...07102&sr=8-1

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