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Going through some things from my father's estateand I came across several old coins. Here is a Mansfeld Thaler with an attachment to make it a pendant. My Coins of the world starts in 1801 so I don't have a reference book and the net is not helping much. Tell me what you know and what you think. I will be posting a few more as time goes by.
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Here is one that recently sold at auction:
https://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotv...c2c87f82542c

Mansfeld is one of the many places that has St. George as its patron saint, so the obverse shows the famous legend of St. George slaying the dragon.

Having been mounted will detract from the value of course, but it's still an attractive coin!
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I noticed on the sides of the shield in the example on coinarchives there is a raised dot on either side. these are not present on my coin. Do you think that it might be due to thee year or something more sinister.
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maine53 As you already know you have an 1579 Mansfeld-Eisleben thaler, Dav. #9495.The catalog mentions that varieties exist and the two dots on the reverse seem to appear on the 1577 and 1578 but not on the 1579!Though mounted and quite worn your thaler is still a nice piece!
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That is a really nice piece.

Welcome to the Forum Maine53
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If I might ask what is the Dav. number? I have not seen it before.
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John Davenport wrote a couple of books cataloging the thalers and crowns of Europe from the 16th to 18th centuries.

You mentioned that you don't have a reference book for coins before 1800. You can always try this online reference, NGCcoins.com. Here is their listing for your coin:
https://www.NGCcoin.com/price-guide...-duid-406600.


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Just my opinion, but I find the suspension loop detracting, distracting and annoying.

If you are not going to keep the coin as a family heirloom, then I think it should be removed before being sold.

If it had come to me as a family heirloom, I would have it removed anyway; it's just that I happen to be a coin collector, and this piece would become a treasured part of my collection, even with the hole that is left behind.
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My dad was a collector of all things but had no major focus, a few coins some tools trinkets of varied kinds so no this is not an heirloom. I will probably sell it some 240 some odd posts from now but for the time being it is good to know what it is and that it has some appeal to collectors.
I will let a future owner deal with the loop removal, there might be a jeweler around here that is up to the task but I doubt it.

Thanks for the Welcomes seems like a good place to learn, couple other coin boards seem less knowledgeable in their replies and answers.
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tdziemia thanks for the reference, I had found that link but there were no photographs of the coin. In any case it looks like a good resource.
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