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New Member
United States
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I find myself being drawn to coins that may be considered "below average" or "negative" eye appeal in terms of toning. The coins still have excellent original luster, but I seem to like dark brown and grey toning, not the rainbow toning that is popular. I find this toning more complex to look at and study and enjoy. See the coin below I just picked up. I can stare at it for 20 minutes slowly rotating in the light, taking in all the little nuances. With a blast white coin, it reveals all immediately. And rainbow tones are more obvious. When it comes time to sell online, a downside is that they are hard to photograph. So what do you think, is this coin ugly? It has very nice luster and essentially no contact, but would you avoid the toning? My [not very good photos]:   Original purchase photos:  btw, feel free to guess the grade if you like. *** Moved by Staff moved to a more appropriate forum. ***Edited by Feuchtwanger
03/19/2018 3:54 pm
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Moderator
 United States
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It is not ugo,I like the toning.Are you willing to tell us what it cost you? John1  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'm not a huge fan, but I certainly wouldn't call it ugly.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
683 Posts |
Nice coin, I personally prefer that more patina toning to rainbow toning. I actually find most raindow toned coin ugly as as supposed to this type of toning.
As for grade, I would say MS-64
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 and I don't think it is one bit "ugly". I prefer a little more even toning, but it's FAR from ugly! |
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Rest in Peace
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Personally, one man's meat is another's poison, and that coin needs an antidote. Sorry. I prefer seeing a coin not a corrosive event.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think it looks great. I like that kind of toning.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I would have much preferred it blast white, with a fabulous cartwheel luster. Have a look at the Photograde site. None of the top MS coins have this sort of toning. It is difficult to see if there are any very minor nicks and scratches on this coin. I will choose to give it the benefit of doubt, and declare that there isn't any. Nevertheless, would I like to have this coin in my collection ? Absolutely definitely ! It is a lovely coin !  |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Newer collectors appreciate blast white silver. It takes time, exposure, and connoisseur development to enjoy original toning. But this type of inconsistent toning is considered a distraction for a majority of buyers.
Buying with the thought of selling and having accepted eye appeal is smart. If you or your heirs don't care, it matters less.
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New Member
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Thanks everyone for the comments. I'm glad to see some also appreciate this look. At the same time, I totally understand those who don't. The 1907 is in an old (2003-2004) NGC holder graded MS 66. I agree with this grade. The luster is all there (given it is under the toning), and it is extremely clean. I could not see it being an MS 65. I'll share a few others of the same type I own that are also in higher grades. They run from blast white to intensely toned. Again, feel free to guess grades, or comment on the appeal (or lack there of) of the toning (or lack thereof). A don't have good pics for a lot of my coins with nice brown/grey toning so I'm just choosing some with decent photos. This is one of my favorites, and is plated at NGC. It is as nice or nicer in hand, but it doesn't really have that blue tint on the obverse. The marks to the left of Liberty's head are as stuck die marks. NGC seems really inconsistent in taking points off for these or not.   This one has intense toning that is much deeper in hand.   I'm not big on blast white, but this one is exceptional in my view.   This one is super crusty with low luster on the obverse, but not in a way that obscures viewing. The reverse is semi-PL.   |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Interesting set of comparison pictures, that emphasize our preferences.
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United States
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Lovely photos ... great coins. |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I don't care for toned coins. I feel it detracts from the beauty of the design.
However, I do appreciate you posting your coins. It is interesting to see them in various stages.
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New Member
United States
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To answer John's question about pricing: For common dates in the later dates (1888-1917) in holders, MS 63/64 generally sell in auctions for $30-40, MS 65's for $50-$80+ (they have been trending up lately), MS 66's go for $80-$150. The one very common date in mint state is 1916, which can be found for around $65-$80 in MS 66 with some patience if someone wants one for type purposes. The market for high end 1/5 Sols is on fire compared to 5 years ago.
Grades for the above 4 coins are as follows:
1906 - MS 66
1897 VN - MS 68
1888 - MS 67
1866 - MS 63
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03/19/2018 11:06 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Thanks for sharing! Of all the coins posted, I think the 1906 has the best eye appeal for me personally. So, that sort of answers the question.  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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I personally like the toning on that coin, even if it is not uniform.
It has not approached the stage where the toning appears to be deeply 'etched' in to the coin. That, I do consider unsightly.
All of you other 1/5 Sols have appealing toning as well.
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