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Is there a way to tell when a PCGS or NGC slabbed coin was graded? I know each of these grading services have gone through an evolution of slabs and from that an approximate timeframe can be determined. Is there a website that pictures their various holders and what time period they were used? That would be helpful. I see reference to "rattler" slabs. I assume these were holders that were prone to having coins that weren't as secure as they should have been and they tend to rotate, or rattle? I believe this is a reference to a certain NGC holder. I recall buying a Morgan dollar that was housed in a "rattler" holder. It didn't rattle. |
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Great link from nfine and PCGS has the "rattler" slabs.
You are correct, the coin is not "tightly" in place.
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Is there a way to tell when a PCGS or NGC slabbed coin was graded? The link that nfine provided will tell you when the coin was slabbed by PCGS, but when they do only "reholdering", they do not assign a new grade. As I understand it, their level of strictness has changed over time -- some coins are more desirable in the earlier holders. It's a fine detail, but again speaks to "buy the coin not the slab". |
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I think there was a generation of PCGS slab that looked like a rattler but it had gasket in it that secured the coin. Conder and Bstrauss will know for sure.
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Is there a way to tell when a PCGS or NGC slabbed coin was graded? I don't believe either company provides this type of insight. Of course they easily could within their cert verification tools, so it looks like a deliberate corporate decision by each of them not to provide this information (I'm sure you can guess why  ). The best you can do is to range date a PCGS holder based on their Museum of Coin Holders page ( link provided by nfine earlier in this thread). Also, see this old CCF thread for a link to information on NGC holders. It's not uptodate with the current holders though. Edited by BadDog
03/23/2018 2:05 pm
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Wow, I thought with the killing off photobucket all the images on the NGC slab thread had disappeared.
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Wow, I thought with the killing off photobucket all the images on the NGC slab thread had disappeared. Nope, at least some of your images survive.  BTW, you did great work on this and it's a real service to the collector community  Any chance for updates?  |
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Yes, if I get off my lazy butt and get some work done.
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As my first post here I wanted to start by saying thanks to Conder101 as his hard work and postings have helped greatly in the building of my collection of slabs by generations. I also have been frustrated by no NGC & ANACS slab histories on their sites as PCGS has done. So I'm attempting to create a place to see them as much for me as anyone else who is collecting the same. https://coins.www.collectors-societ...aspx?s=24644 . I apologize again for any problems or bad feelings caused by my methods. I decided to follow a PCGS style listing using only standard slabs. Most of my dating and descriptions of NGC generations has been directly taken from Conder101's posts, I hope that is OK. I am having difficulty though with ANACS as there is so little that I have found, so I need help from any of you who can help. Thanks in advance. |
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I have done a thread on ANACS varieties but it was on a forum that is now gone defunct. There is another another gentleman who has done a series on the ANACS certificate varieties. I have a copy of it around here someplace. Have to see if I can't pull something together.
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As my first post here...  to the Community! |
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To Conder101 & jbuck, Thank you! I will check back as often as I can for updates.
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You are welcome.  |
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 Robert Paul's article on photo certificates (actually part of an article on ANACS history) can be found here, hosted on Google Docs. For any ANA members (can't post due to copyright), some relevant historical articles from The Numismatist include May 1972, page 721 - Board adopts report to create ANACS August 1972, page 1238 - "Certification Service Underway" December 1972, page 1925 - Illustration of the 1st type January 1982, page 82 - Counterfeit ANACS cert (1916D dime, F-3579-G) January 1989, page 146-147 - Slabs! The earliest ANACS Legers are still at headquarters. The first books are purely numeric... Quote:
1 to 1736 6/15/1972 - 1/31/1973
1737 - 3177 2/1/1973 - 6/11/1973
3178 - 4839 6/15/1973 - 11/8/1973
4840 - 6420 11/9/1973 - 3/12/1974
6421 - 7988 3/13/1974 - 6/24/1974
7989 -10000 6/24/1974 - 10/15/[1974] Leger series "A" started in use 10/14/1974 with A0001 According to one of the old timers I met there (he left before ANACS began slabbing), they used ledgers A, B and C in Washington DC. The ledgers overlap, while one was being used for intake, the others were in use for different stages of the certification process. When the move to Colorado occurred, nobody was sure about D, so they started with E There was also the change in text with the new address and addition of a suffix letter. This gives us the most common pattern we see today, E-nnnn-A. -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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Thanks for posting Robert Paul's article, what a fantastic resource.
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