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1831 Capped Bust Half Dollar , Unknown Error Type Re: Lettered Edge

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 Posted 03/28/2018  8:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add X9 Mike Honcho to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Unfortunately, this type of information is not contained in Parsley's "United States Early Half Dollar Die Varieties 1794-1836" even though it's 756 pages. I'm at a halt here as you guys are my last option. I've made a lot of progress not having it come here and ask a question every time I have one, and I do appreciate the help that I do get thank you.

I was going to sell this client until I noticed something I obviously overlooked, on the lettered Edge varieties of the Capped Bust half dollars , the words "50 Cents or half of a dollar" are embedded within the edge of the coin. I noticed that the word or obviously was placed upon the word "half", or depending on how they did it maybe the word half was put over the word "or".

At this point finding myself in a standstill as far as identifying type of error, I put the coin in my safe deposit box today until I head up to the ANA library for a few things next week. Is my coin dealer slash coin shop owner has had a difficult time even being able to identify if my coin is a proof or not, that's not the question I'm asking here, we're just stuck trying to find any type of information where images of crushed lettered Edge or anything having to do with the letters and the edge of a Capped Bust half dollar.

Here's some images I've recently taken that I have on my phone and I hope they work good for you guys. the images on Heritage auction site of auction coins with mishaps on the edge of the coin dealing with the lettering actually don't include an image of the edge of the coin that was auctioned. Thank you for your help in advance and I will let you know that outcome regardless thank you.

Mike H.

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I thought I mentioned even though you can't see in these photos the edge of the coin has suffered damage from the collar that we are sure of we are certain that letters are imprinted over themselves. Highly, highly unlikely that this is a circulated proof, and I am just saying that because I don't like having false hopes so I'm not even going to go there.
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Your coin is not a proof, it is not a crushed edge letter. (On the crushed edge letter proofs, the lettering is completely flattened showing as mere traces of itself. This was caused by the planchets being lettered first, and then struck in a smooth plain collar which crushed and smoothed out the lettering. The lettering will show is mere lines with no depth to them at all.) I'm sure the edge letter variations are mentioned in the Paisley book. The edge lettering was put on using two dies one contained the part of the inscription that read fifty cents or and the other die read half a dollar. If Castaining machine was not retracted all the way to its starting position, the lettering from the two edge dies could overlap on the coin. That is what is happened on your coin. It's kind of neat, but not all that unusual.
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03/29/2018 1:29 pm
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Edge errors are mentioned in Parsley's book on pg 701. This looks like error E45: "F CIENTS ORALF A DOLLAR". These errors are not rated as to rarity.
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03/29/2018 5:34 pm
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