1853 One Dime Token, Copy, Original?

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Tucans New Member Brazil 28 Posts	Posted 03/28/2018 3:21 pm Hello, guys. This coin attracted my attention because of the great difference of colors between the sides, reverse preserved, observe dark and worn and the exaggerated scroll on the edge. There are pronounced markings on the rim that imagine being beaten, observing seemingly wrinkled, very fragile material. Details on the legend (s of states, e in dime, 53 on date, etc). I imagine it to be a token or a copy. * Moved by Staff moved to a more appropriate forum. * Edited by Tucans 03/28/2018 11:15 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 03/28/2018 3:39 pm I'm wondering about a potential contemporary counterfeit. Report this Post to the Staff
Tucans New Member Brazil 28 Posts	Posted 03/28/2018 3:49 pm Hi Conder. It does not look like something modern, maybe a vintage copy. It's been kept here for the last thirty years. I can not tell American coins. Report this Post to the Staff
Bump111 Pillar of the Community United States 3327 Posts	Posted 03/28/2018 4:58 pm It looks like this coin got hot at some point in its life. "Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae Report this Post to the Staff
Tucans New Member Brazil 28 Posts	Posted 03/28/2018 5:39 pm It may be heating, but I think the damage would be much higher in every coin. Would you also justify the shrinkage of the core shown at the edge? Thanks for the comment, Bump. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 03/28/2018 7:37 pm It may have been in a holder? Report this Post to the Staff
Tucans New Member Brazil 28 Posts	Posted 03/28/2018 8:13 pm Hi. Not that I know of. But it would be a very fragile holder, even as craftsmanship is not functional, more practical they have made a hole. The span is very regular in such a tight fit. It's a good point of view, coop. Do you think it's an original coin? Edited by Tucans 03/28/2018 8:30 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Bump111 Pillar of the Community United States 3327 Posts	Posted 03/28/2018 8:25 pm Quote: . . Would you also justify the shrinkage of the core shown at the edge? Sorry, Tucans. I don't have enough experience with metals to give you a definitive answer on that. I would think that a copper core would shrink in heat, but this coin shouldn't have one. My comment was based more on the discoloration and what looks a little like "bubbling." "Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae Report this Post to the Staff
Tucans New Member Brazil 28 Posts	Posted 03/28/2018 8:39 pm I did not mean to sound rude. Differences of language, Portuguese / English. Sorry. But the bubbling state would leave a coin as thin as a ruffles. It's a good perception you had, valid. Edited by Tucans 03/28/2018 9:01 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Tucans New Member Brazil 28 Posts	Posted 03/28/2018 9:38 pm Is it possible, at the time, to remove / steal illegal metal from coins (debasement), quite common in other coins? But this is only justified if made in the thousands to compensate and mechanically, there should be other exemplars. It would explain the changed edge. Edited by Tucans 03/28/2018 10:36 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 03/29/2018 1:34 pm Is the diameter of the piece correct? I ask because I think one way the edge could be done like that is if it does spend flattened are partially crushed. Notice also the extremely wide rim's. Report this Post to the Staff
Tucans New Member Brazil 28 Posts	Posted 03/29/2018 3:04 pm Hi, Conder. I thought of crushing too, but the diameter is 17.9mm exact. The rim is displaced from the center on both sides. Report this Post to the Staff
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