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Constantine I The Great (Constantinople Founds) Patina Question

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 Posted 03/30/2018  8:25 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mala-zaba to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all,
I post today for patina questions. I bought this coin with this pictures. When I receive the coin, I noticed that platina is not the same of the seller pictures.

Seller pictures
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My pictures
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What I found on the forum is perhaps it's a fake desert patina. I try to rub between my fingers, nothing. Soft scratch with a toothpick, nothing.
Other tips to verifing ?

Do you think there pictures are taking when coin are wet ? I don't try put water on my piece, I put this piece in a 2x2.
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 Posted 03/30/2018  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archeo1982 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The patina on all photo's looks the same to me. Maybe the image was taken differently? Scan versus photo?
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 Posted 03/30/2018  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Same coin, your picture is much better than the sellers.
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Seller's white balance was off. Maybe using a fluorescent lamp?
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Speaking of light, you can see 4 incandescent lights in this photo below, all different wattage's and spectrum's like natural glow and daylight and the tiny room also has 5 other lamps you can't see and a basement fluorescent overhead. So I carry the coin on a rock in a box around until I see the photo I want then take it. So I'll give you any light you want and I'll probably add more lamps in the future!
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 Posted 03/31/2018  03:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Photographing ancients can be a real challenge. I usually use incandescent lamps and a hand held camera is a must for most bronze coins.
Silver is much easier to photograph.
In order to create a reasonable amount of contrast I will often apply a dab of Blue Ribbon coin preservative and gently blot away any excess.
It gives the coins a bit of a "wet" look but makes it much easier to capture the details that otherwise are obscured by darkness. Some bronze coins would otherwise look more like a droplet of mud !
A quick acetone bath removes any traces.
If you ever suspect a coin to be 'doctored' an acetone bath is the surest way to unmask any deceit. It won't harm your coins and will leave them quite literally "bone dry" !

PS
Always use a glass jar or porceline cup when using acetone or you might actually melt a plastic container !
Also extinguish any flames
Highly volatile
I nearly lost my eyebrows once while working on a small lapping machine ......
Back in the bad old days !
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Thanks all for your input!
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