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1860 Indian Cent

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 Posted 06/13/2008  3:53 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DarkSun to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,

what do you think about my newest buy?
What grade would you give the coin (with rim damage or error?)?
Thank you!

1860-Indian-Cent
1860-Indian-Cent

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Edited by DarkSun
06/13/2008 4:10 pm
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 Posted 06/13/2008  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say AU55-58, rim ding makes it unlikely to get an MS rating. That is a beautiful coin.

Does the shield on the reverse have doubling on the left side or is that a shadow from the lighting used to take the picture?
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 Posted 06/13/2008  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DarkSun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Does the shield on the reverse have doubling on the left side or is that a shadow from the lighting used to take the picture?"

It is a shadow.
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 Posted 06/14/2008  2:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CuprousCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks MS, and I can't tell if that is a rim bump or planchet flaw. is the edge of the coin smooth ?
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 Posted 06/14/2008  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DarkSun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have taken some pictures of the area.

1860-Indian-Cent
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06/14/2008 5:28 pm
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 Posted 06/17/2008  10:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CuprousCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definately a rim bump which will keep it from a MS grade. Very nice coin otherwise. Without the rim bump MS60
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07/11/2008 4:37 pm
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 Posted 06/17/2008  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DarkSun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok. And what do you think would be the grade without this nice rim bump?
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Another question: Am I right, that this is the pointed bust variety?
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 Posted 07/11/2008  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CuprousCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yes you are correct, it is a pointed bust variety. you can view a picture of the rounded bust variety at the " Indian Head cent photos" link that is located directly below your original post.
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 Posted 07/11/2008  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mklpatrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, that's a nice one...AU 58 I would guess?
Do these coins ever show wear on the tops of the headdress feathers or is that due to an inherently weak strike?
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I think the feathers always show wear at the top.
If you compare my coin:
1860-Indian-Cent
with this MS66:
http://coins.ha.com/common/view_ite...&Lot_No=1096
you can also see the wear at the top.
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 Posted 07/12/2008  09:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Rim bumps keep it from an MS grade? Really?

Otherwise, I'd say MS-62
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Wear on an IHC obverse shows up first on hair above ear and hair curl to the right of the ribbon. A common poor strike characteristic is weak feather tips as seen on the 1860 IHC in the link provided by Dark Sun. Minor rim dings would not necessary prevent a coin from receiving a MS grade, But bold rim bumps will usually prevent them from being "slabbed" or graded as MS.
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07/14/2008 4:29 pm
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