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Valued Member
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I have several of these in for grading and will share results when they come back later this month if you wish to let me know what you think about these two examples below: Rays in Patina #10:   Compare #12:   Thanks for your opinion. Edited by FrankenCoin
04/08/2018 12:22 am
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I don't know what to say. Those are truly amazing and I do not have words for how beautiful these are. Wow!
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Thank you ItsDaBunny: Put these rolls up in a safe place in 1968 and learning grading by research and as everyone knows grading is by experience, opinion and pocket book for certification and you want to be spot on or real close. It is a learning experience and there is a wealth of knowledge here at CCF. Quote:
I don't know what to say. Those are truly amazing and I do not have words for how beautiful these are. Wow! The blessing of the Internet. Edited by FrankenCoin
04/07/2018 5:03 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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These are definitely some nice higher-grade examples.
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United States
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Thank you SilverDollar:
I have been learning and wish to share with others but I would like to see some risk takers to take a shot at these.
Also there are others here with more experience so it would be nice if they would jump into some grading opinions too.
You learn something new everyday.
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Bedrock of the Community
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#10
Lighting is a bit tricky, can't read the fields well enough. Obverse luster looks excellent - I can see the halo luster around the portrait. The reverse field above the C up through the conice is poorly struck. If luster and eye appeal overcome that - 66.
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Great coin, love it. A touch nicer than #10. It's all about the eye appeal, should be at least a 66 based on what I can see from the given.
GOOD LUCK! If you can score at least one 67 it will have been worth the grading fees!
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04/08/2018 01:20 am
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Thank you BadThad:
I have 10 of these in for grading and most of them look just as good as MS67 at you know where and even those pictures show one or two scratches in the fields, a nick or two in the obverse figure and a nick or missing dent on a rim or so if that the pictures are correct?
It is difficult for a non-professional to take pictures with cheap equipment not alone lighting, etc. It is a learning experience.
I will be happy with two or three 67s and if the grader is feeling good maybe a 68 if they think they will not get fired, lol. Wishful thinking -- you never know.
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Bedrock of the Community
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The first one seems to have some reverse ticks which may hold it back.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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It is difficult for a non-professional to take pictures with cheap equipment not alone lighting, etc. It is a learning experience. Yes, learning experience for sure! You're pretty close for a beginner though. Just a few tweaks and you'll be fine. Your main issues are lighting, white balance and cropping. I can tell your light is coming to far from the right (coin shadow on left). This is affecting the white balance. See how your white background (thanks for using white) is more bluish on the right. Try getting your light more perpendicular to the coin surface. Calibrate your white balance with the camera in a similar position to which you're taking pictures. If you have zoom, try to keep the camera far enough away from the coin so it doesn't interfere with the light. You don't need expensive gear to take decent pictures for the web. I use an old Canon SD700IS (only 6MP), a $25 Lowes desk lamp and a piece of copy paper. All my pictures are taken free-hand with no post-processing other than to crop and resize for web.     Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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04/08/2018 12:23 pm
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Yes BadThad: I have tried various techniques with what little equipment that I have and these pictures are my first round of using a new cheap opti-techscope. The focusing is real touchy. Their program is basic and then the techniques of lighting is the next thing -- left side during the day time is high and then to balance right side is low and across -- in fact I need to make a special light stand for lower left and right with adjustable shading. Processing of pictures and cropping: I did not alter any color of course of these pictures nor did I corp yet they are just file copies at this time outside of holders. Your second picture is more favorable to eye appeal on the Net and of course rotation would be helpful. I found working with some error coins to highlight die-cracks it is a matter of both lighting and rotation for finer details. Eg., here is a 1921-D Morgan Rare VAM-1J LDS I believe that I am working on next. Notice the die-break from the rim across the Top of TED to Left-Wing and then on the right side on Top of the STAT, etc.  This picture was taken at night under full artificial lighting and will only be enhanced by program gray scale. Regardless of all of the above: Pictures are pictures and they still do not capture the total representation of a piece (coin) a majority of the time. Simply put coins and jewelry are not really photogenic by character and you must hone you skills with equipment on a trial and error bases.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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in fact I need to make a special light stand for lower left and right with adjustable shading. Nah, just pickup a cheap desklamp like this:   Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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To every one that struggles with understanding grading of Moderns, etc. These results just came in of the first batch that I sent in and of course a picture is worth a thousand words, as they say. So far so good, I guess.   Thanks a lot BadThad and every one else for their thoughts, opinions and general info.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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That's a lot of 66's! Congrats!
Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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Valued Member
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Yes @BadThad: It appears that I have some Hot Rolls. Not bad for beginners luck but I was looking for that elusive purple lizard with green pock-a-dots and racing stripes with the #67. Quote:Quality and Overall Eye Appeal varies between buyers and graders, and when grading coins it is a matter of experience and opinions: All of these vary between buyers, sellers and professional graders alike. http://goccf.com/t/316081 Just here to share and enjoy learning and the company. Thanks for the input along with every one else, your thoughts and opinions help me to refocus and fine tune. Either it is or it is not.  Edited by FrankenCoin
04/12/2018 10:25 pm
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