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Latest Pick-Up: Uncertain Early Arsacid King Tet

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Thought I'd share my latest auction win, which becomes my 11th coin, and 7th tet, of the so-called "Uncertain Early Arsacid Kings" of Elymais, the term used for the anonymous kings who ruled Elymais between the late 1st century BC to early 2nd century AD. This period marked a dynastic change from the prior Kamnaskirid rulers of Elymais to a line of (probably) blood relatives of the Arsacids of Parthia. Formulization set in with these coins, and types are distinguishable only by small details like the number of anchor crossbars, and the presence or absence of the adjacent motifs: crescents/stars/rosettes/pellets. One of the fascinating things about coins from this period is the disconnect between the style of the obverse busts and the often remarkably degenerated reverse busts. Die engravers capable of these obverses clearly could have produced superior reverse portraits, and yet the convention was to render reverse busts as cartoonish - and sometimes even just as simplified, chicken-scratch line drawings.

The newbie is directly below, followed by a collage of my other tets from this particular period in Elymais, and then a collage of contemporaneous drachms that I own - note the drachms were always struck on very tight flans.
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Super coin Bob, to go along with a beautiful set. Congrats
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One of the fascinating things about coins from this period is the disconnect between the style of the obverse busts and the often remarkably degenerated reverse busts.


Yes I agree. As it seems to be purposeful, I can't help but wonder if it was to show a proper level of respect to the guy bankrolling the die cutters (i.e. the king). Are there any real theories as to why this seemingly mismatched craftsmanship was employed?
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Lovely coin Bob! Great addition to your impressive collection...

I'm really intrigued aswell as to the vast difference in style?

It's almost like the punch and die were made seperately, centuries apart..

Thanks for sharing

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Thanks, guys. Well, Dave and Paul, below is what van't Haaff says about the matter - referencing Benjamin Bell. The theory suggests a political impetus for the degeneration. I suppose the idea is that earlier die erasures became a fixed aesthetic for the reverses(?).


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I've never heard that. Thanks for sharing that information.
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Yes ok very interesting. Thanks!
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Great group of coins Bob. The portraits look very similar so I'm wondering if it is one king or several kings all closely related. Interesting.

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Thanks, Steve. Yes, this transitional coinage has presented a big challenge for scholars with some, I believe, proposing a single ruler and others (like van't Haaff) positing several.
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Nice pick-up!
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