Found 2 Stages Of A Die Crack On 1958-D Lincoln Wheat Cent / LWC ...

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Eyes4Error Pillar of the Community United States 710 Posts	Posted 04/09/2018 8:04 pm Found these 2 LWC... I am pretty sure they are related. Report this Post to the Staff

DrDon Pillar of the Community United States 2624 Posts	Posted 04/09/2018 8:14 pm I think not. The mint marks look to be positioned differently. Report this Post to the Staff
Eyes4Error Pillar of the Community United States 710 Posts	Posted 04/09/2018 8:18 pm Thought the Mint mark was a separate process and so varied...? Report this Post to the Staff
DrDon Pillar of the Community United States 2624 Posts	Posted 04/09/2018 8:27 pm The mint mark is applied to the die. that die then produces a series of coins with the mint mark in the same location. For the chips to be different stages of the same chip/crack it would have to be on the same die with the mint mark in the same location. Report this Post to the Staff
Eyes4Error Pillar of the Community United States 710 Posts	Posted 04/09/2018 8:31 pm Ok... I get ya! So this was just a common place for a die crack? LOL Report this Post to the Staff
RoyCoinBoy Pillar of the Community United States 1609 Posts	Posted 04/09/2018 8:45 pm If they are two different dies, then the punch just about hit the bullseye of positioning; see overlay below. I vote that they came from the same die, but in the time that it took for the die to crack, the mintmark somehow slightly scooted down the die by about a millimeter. (Die flow? Polishing? ) Edited by RoyCoinBoy 04/09/2018 8:47 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Eyes4Error Pillar of the Community United States 710 Posts	Posted 04/09/2018 8:51 pm Yes, they are close but sightly off... I can see that. But in my non expert opinion and I am just learning, sooooo ... I still think they are related. Report this Post to the Staff
moxking Rest in Peace United States 17900 Posts	Posted 04/09/2018 9:17 pm Second cousins, perhaps Report this Post to the Staff
RoyCoinBoy Pillar of the Community United States 1609 Posts	Posted 04/09/2018 9:25 pm I do think they are related. I feel there's next to no chance that the same mintmark on the same year in the same position on two different dies that just so happen to have two die cracks at the same angle in the same place with the same starting and ending points. I feel that's about as likely as a penny being struck by lightning while falling from the empire state building. Report this Post to the Staff
DrDon Pillar of the Community United States 2624 Posts	Posted 04/09/2018 9:55 pm A wandering mint mark? That is new to me. I saw two coins with mint marks in different locations. after closer inspection I see a small crack on the bottom of the five on the first coin that appears to be slightly longer on the second although it isn't as clear. Perhaps you are correct. Report this Post to the Staff
Eyes4Error Pillar of the Community United States 710 Posts	Posted 04/09/2018 9:55 pm Although I am a newbie! Report this Post to the Staff
Eyes4Error Pillar of the Community United States 710 Posts	Posted 04/10/2018 1:46 pm Any other opinions... I have found a few other error pennies with relatives... Like for example the "9-5" in a series of 1957 D pennies (15 pennies total), where the Die Cud goes from the 9 to both 9 & 5 and then just shows in the 5 (assuming that things move towards the rim). I added a few pics to this post where someone had discovered the same... http://goccf.com/t/304934 So I am trying to get more of an eye and mindset on discovering stages of an error like this... Thanks! Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 04/10/2018 2:51 pm DrDon is correct. They are two different dies. The locations are fixed, they don't move. Same events happen on dies because they go through the same process sometimes a million times+. The mint mark positions don't lie. They are like finger prints on the coins they strike. If these were non mint marked, it would sound reasonable, but not able to be proved. But with a mint mark, the location is the fingerprint back to the die. Report this Post to the Staff
Eyes4Error Pillar of the Community United States 710 Posts	Posted 04/10/2018 2:57 pm OK good to know... The crack is just so dead on looking... Same thing twice... Made me think I was seeing a progression. Report this Post to the Staff
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