2016-P North Dakota Theodore Roosevelt ATB Quarter-Trails? Something Else?

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trombley2 New Member United States 3 Posts	Posted 04/10/2018 11:42 am I have searched and searched trying to find another example of this coin and an explanation, but to no avail. My first thought when I found this was trails, but I could not find a listing for this one. It also seems almost too defined to be trails. Like the die was damaged prior to hubbing. So far I have found two of these. They were found a few months apart. Any thoughts and insight is greatly appreciated. Jon Report this Post to the Staff

coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 04/10/2018 11:54 am I don't think they are trails. They don't form on flat devices. Usually on edges/devices. These look like die scratches on the fields. Report this Post to the Staff
nfine Pillar of the Community United States 3474 Posts	Posted 04/10/2018 11:56 am These look like die scratches. Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 04/10/2018 11:57 am to CCF. They are not trails. I agree with some kind of die gouges. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
trombley2 New Member United States 3 Posts	Posted 04/10/2018 12:03 pm Thank you for the input. Makes sense. I wonder what would produce damage like this? Especially with the lines having what appears to be identical angles. Edits: I can't type today.... Edited by trombley2 04/10/2018 12:41 pm Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 04/10/2018 3:39 pm Keep in mind how a die looks: From the image it is hard to tell, but the highest points on the coins, is the deepest into the die. The outside part of the die is the fields. The rim is the little tapered area beyond the edge face of the die. So when a coin is miss handled, the fields can be scratched/gouged/damaged and affect that area. On this coin that area is the field area. The part damaged the easiest. When view them from the coin, the coin is the positive, the die is the negative. Raised on the coin, deepest into the die. Lowest on the coin, on the die face is the field area. When polished, just the fields are usually altered. thus the lines that flow behind the devices. Report this Post to the Staff
trombley2 New Member United States 3 Posts	Posted 04/10/2018 3:52 pm Excellent explanation. I came to the realization later on about when it would have been damaged. Wasn't fully processing the positive/negative of die vs coin. The way the lines look make me think of something like a fork dragging across it. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 04/10/2018 4:02 pm Sliding the die on a bench over sand grains/steel filings/grease/with grit in it/broken glass/ diamond paste or other things could affect the die. Edited by coop 04/10/2018 4:03 pm Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 189340 Posts	Posted 04/10/2018 5:47 pm to the Community! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
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