Chile 1806 2 Reales (Or Not) - Coin Community Forum

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realeswatcher Pillar of the Community United States 1962 Posts	Posted 04/12/2018 05:47 am These have been around for most of this decade - learn the signs: Report this Post to the Staff

moxking Rest in Peace United States 17900 Posts	Posted 04/12/2018 07:52 am Are we supposed to determine which are authentic? Report this Post to the Staff
GERMANICVS Pillar of the Community Germany 1849 Posts	Posted 04/12/2018 11:10 am This is the Santiago 2 Reales Carlos IV my collection. Report this Post to the Staff
realeswatcher Pillar of the Community United States 1962 Posts	Posted 04/12/2018 7:45 pm "This is the Santiago 2 Reales Carlos IV (from) my collection." Which IS genuine. Clearly that's the same reverse die... obverse looks to match as well. I also don't see that reverse die used after 1803 (certainly wouldn't be by 1806). So, we're presumably dealing with a copy of an 1803 that gets touched up to make surrounding dates. Report this Post to the Staff
Numismat Pillar of the Community United States 1666 Posts	Posted 04/12/2018 9:23 pm The first thing that jumps out at me is what looks like a notch in the dentils at 12 o'clock on both sides. Otherwise they are well made and individually would likely fool my eye based on those photos. Thanks for posting this :) Edited by Numismat 04/12/2018 9:25 pm Report this Post to the Staff
jgenn Pillar of the Community United States 1156 Posts	Posted 04/12/2018 11:08 pm I don't know this series or 2Rs in general but what catches my eye in all of these photos is the line through the dentils. From what I have learned about the manufacture of the 8 reales, the blank goes through the edging mill that impresses the edge design as well as upsets the edge. Then this planchet is struck on the screw press and the upset edge is flattened but creates a rim that is thicker than the rest of the coin. On these 2 reales, which are significantly thinner than the 8 reales, is it possible that the upset edge gets folded over when struck, creating that crease line through the dentils? What else would cause this effect? Edited by jgenn 04/12/2018 11:09 pm Report this Post to the Staff
jgenn Pillar of the Community United States 1156 Posts	Posted 04/16/2018 10:11 pm Ok I re-read swamperbob's post about the edge groove between the outer dentils and inner dentils, caused by one side's edging having extra upsetting. These coins appear to have that effect. Report this Post to the Staff
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