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Framed 1904 Worlds Fair Tokens?

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I tagged along with a friend to Springfield Illinois recently, stopped at an estate sale, got this for $50. I don't usually collect these sort of medals. would of regretted not getting. wondered if the matting background is absorbing the one token? and wondering if this set is original to the period, frame is fragile, top left corner partially missing. reverse black paper thin falling apart. do I take these coins out or just enjoy them as they are? cant find much info on these? but since I'm in St.Louis I got it. guessing its worth what I paid. did wonder how many homes it hung in through the decades.sorry I didn't clean glass before snapping pics. appreciate any info!
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to CCF. Going to need close ups front and back of tokens.
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Going to need close ups front and back of tokens.
I agree.

I do not have any additional information, but it is an interesting find.
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The frame is displaying the obverse and reverse of the same medal type. It is a type of medal known as a "So-Called Dollar" and it is the official souvenir medal of the Louisiana Purchase Exposition(1904 World's Fair for St. Louisans). Judging by the color, you have either HK-300(gold-plated bronze), HK-302(yellow bronze), or HK-304(gilt). If the matting/backing has not corroded the medals at all, then they should be worth the $50 you paid.
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ok, thanks, here are close ups, one on left looks like matting is taking over coin? other on right, not so bad? I cant photograph the other sides of coins, there is a board over it with thin black paper falling apart? didnt know if I should take them out clean them and then put back? or leave them out? or leave em alone? thanks for any advice!
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That's an interesting piece. I love the eagle!

I am not an expert -- but it sort of looks to me like the eagle engraving was 'professionally' matted -- note the beveled edge -- and the medals were added later by someone who didn't have a matching matt cutter.

If the medals were added later then the black edges on them could have been caused by any number of things.
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What does the back of the frame look like?
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Thanks! for all the info & the welcomes! I'm afraid to open up the back board, its covered by thin black paper that looks aged and has become like tissue paper. was gonna open up clean up coins and put them back inside. not sure if cleaning these types is acceptable? but for now I will just forget about it.or maybe take to my local coin shop for their advice as well. appreciate it greatly!
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Do not attempt to clean these tokens. It will substantially reduce their value.

Some of us have tried using pure acetone (not nail polish remover) to remove the gunk that accumulates on circulated coins but I would suggest you read up on it and practice on coins that have no premium value before attempting to do it on these nice tokens. You can search this site for coin cleaning info. by using the box in the upper left corner.

You can also try to find a professional coin restoration service -- but I would think that might be quite expensive.

I think they are fine the way they are. They aren't perfect -- just showing their age.
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Thank you Buddy for the advice, I will leave it be, and don't want to take the back board off anyway.I may take this to my local coin shop some day and see what they think as well. I really appreciate all the replies!
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