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Thebutcher New Member United States 4 Posts	Posted 04/18/2018 3:47 pm * Moved by Staff moved to a more appropriate forum. * Report this Post to the Staff

Spence Moderator United States 34423 Posts	Posted 04/18/2018 4:12 pm @TB, first welcome to CCF. Second, nice use of the coffee emoji--it is new here and it is nice to see folks using it. With regard to your coin, posting in this thread a pic of the other side would be useful. Finally, I am going to recommend to the mods that your thread get moved over to the world coin section as this section is technically for coins from before 1600 AD. The world coin section has several folks who know about cobs and should be able to weigh in on what you've got--I'm not sure that they spend much time here and will be less likely to see and comment on your thread if it stays here. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 188770 Posts	Posted 04/18/2018 5:59 pm to the Community! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
Dorado Bedrock of the Community Canada 24885 Posts	Posted 04/18/2018 9:31 pm To the Forum . Quote: a pic of the other side would be useful. Report this Post to the Staff
thq Pillar of the Community United States 3343 Posts	Posted 04/18/2018 9:44 pm It is based on a Felipe III 1/2 real, but it doesn't look like a real real. How did you date this to 1617? 1/2 reals don't have dates until the mid 1600's. I can read Phillipus III perfectly around the rim. I have never seen this on any cob except for royals (see sedwick link below). Here is one minted during Felipe III's reign for reference https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces57640.html Sedwick has a 1716 1/2 real royal for sale currently, which shows the date and full king's name. http://www.sedwickcoins.com/silver_cobs_mexico.htm "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire Edited by thq 04/18/2018 10:10 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Thebutcher New Member United States 4 Posts	Posted 04/20/2018 10:21 am I can't figure out how to make picture size smaller to post the pic I have of the other side Report this Post to the Staff
SilverDollar2017 Pillar of the Community United States 8715 Posts	Posted 04/20/2018 10:23 am Use the Free Image Optimizer to reduce the size. Report this Post to the Staff
Thebutcher New Member United States 4 Posts	Posted 04/20/2018 10:30 am Report this Post to the Staff
Thebutcher New Member United States 4 Posts	Posted 04/20/2018 10:31 am Got it Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 188770 Posts	Posted 04/20/2018 10:42 am Nice work. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
thq Pillar of the Community United States 3343 Posts	Posted 04/22/2018 08:58 am I see the 1617 date now. It's on the wrong side of the coin. The dates on most 1/2 real cobs are underneath the king's monogram, on the other side of the coin. They only show the last 3 digits of the date, and are very crudely done. The royals have the whole date, to the left of the king's monogram, as in the Mexico example I linked above. Compare the 1725 Limas in Sedwick auction 21 (lots 827 and 828). Sorry I can't link it, but you can see what the date usually looks like. I don't know exactly what you have Thebutcher but it doesn't look like any cob I've ever seen. "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire Edited by thq 04/22/2018 09:12 am Report this Post to the Staff
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